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Indoors or out, bicycling can be great for an individual’s back with proper preparation. With everything that is going on, many individuals are getting creative with their workouts. Many are turning to home or outdoor exercise. Bicycling is considered a safe activity. According to the NPD Group, bicycle sales have tripled in sales since March.
However, back pain could be affected by a biking routine. Whether a newfound hobby or regular activity, individuals need to prepare and plan ahead before getting out on the trails or on a stationary exercise bike and avoid developing or aggravating back pain. Here are a few essential tips to create a safe and back-healthy bicycling experience.
Understanding back pain
Bicycling is a type of aerobic exercise that can help with overall health. Done regularly it can improve the heart and lungs’ performance. Other areas of the body like the spine along with the musculoskeletal system, also benefit. For some, it is an even better form of exercise than jogging or aerobics, as it can be less jolting on the body and spine.
Back pain during cycling is rare except when individuals try to push the intensity level beyond their normal workout. If there is back pain from an unknown cause it should be looked into by a doctor, physical therapist, or chiropractor before beginning a regular bicycling regimen.
There are certain spinal conditions where bicycling can benefit. Individuals that bike ride with conditions like degenerative disc disease and lumbar spinal stenosis can experience relief in the back and legs, as it�s an exercise in which flexes the back. But there are spinal instability conditions like spondylolisthesis, that create forward flexion and can worsen back and leg pain. Therefore it is essential to attain a diagnosis before committing to regular bicycling.
Talk to a Doctor
Before starting any exercise program, talk with your doctor to find out if you are healthy enough for this type of therapeutic workout. Those with present back pain issues also need to be cleared by their doctors. But more than likely if they are already following a treatment plan, their doctor would have them doing some form of stretching/exercise as part of their plan, and they just need to find out if riding a bicycle is OK. Once cleared, even with chronic mild back pain an individual can initiate bicycling into their regimen.
Reasonable workout
In addition to safety basics individuals need to:
Wear a helmet
Wear highly-visible clothing
Get their bike serviced for optimal performance
Add reflectors
Add lighting
Have a workout/training plan
As with any exercise, there should be a training plan that will be sustainable and help to avoid injury. Set small goals, especially when beginning. Go for an achievable distance or workout time. Then gradually build up and don’t rush. Allow yourself to go through the experience, learning as much as you can.
Both indoor and outdoor biking require a thorough warm-up and stretching of the body. This definitely includes the spine, that needs some time to loosen up, properly. A healthy comfortable bike seat or saddle with the proper height for body type and inseam is vital. Being uncomfortable while trying to perform therapeutic exercises plus the added possibility of worsening the injury or creating a new one from a stock seat is not worth the risk. At the end of the ride, cooling down is strongly advised.
Pay attention to form/mechanics
When it comes to biking technique, there is no particular form that is ideal or the best.� Always try to be in a position where the spine is comfortable. This type of bicycling is low-impact and should be fluid in motion. Poor posture, jerking motions of the spine, neck, or not using the proper equipment can cause poor mechanics and increase the risk of injury.
Indoor bicycling
Cycling indoors could be safer for individuals that do not have access to safe bicycling areas or are older. Options include spin class or stationary bike. Both are set in a controlled environment with accidents being a rare occurrence. Outdoor biking happens on the road, bike path, sidewalk, or terrain where there is potential for an accident. With the machine or class, individuals can:
Choose the workout type
Fitness level
Intensity
Workout duration
Heart rate
Resistance
Spin classes also follow the pattern with a warmup, a specific workout, and a cool down. However, there are the mental health benefits of being outdoors. Whatever is best for the individual, it is up to them to ride the bike outdoors, indoors, or a combination of both. It is an excellent form of exercise, as it:
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PODCAST: In today’s podcast, Dr. Alex Jimenez, chiropractor, and Kenna Vaughn, health coach, introduce Jeremy McGowan and Taylor Lyle, both experts in nutrition and strength training, as they discuss the differences between what is athletic strength training vs what is military strength training. By sharing a wide variety of nutrition and fitness recommendations, Jeremy McGowan and Taylor Lyle bring their knowledge and experience to El Paso, Tx where they offer performance improvements and injury recovery wherever they are needed. Dr. Alex Jimenez, Kenna Vaughn, Jeremy McGowan, and Taylor Lyle share what it is they do in their careers to provide overall health.� – Podcast Insight
[00:00:18] All right, guys, we’re here today. We’re excited. It’s a real special day for me here in El Paso because as you guys know, my job is to advance the science of wellness and fitness and to bring people that we have in El Paso to the forefront and to, you know, kind of show the individuals that are out there and the options we have. A lot of people don’t know. I’ve been out here for 30 years and I’ve seen El Paso kind of develop over the last three decades. And I’ve been nothing but proud to see the young kids and young men that are heading to the fitness programs all around the city, along with the insights that they’re bringing from where they come from people coming from all over the world. We have Olympians. We have specialists. We have top trainers, power trainers, fitness trainers, Crossfit trainers all around the world. These individuals bring a huge amount of talent and they all do the same thing. They get old. And as we get older, they were once the best in the world. And they come back and they share with. If you’re an Olympian and you know what? For the youth. So we bring certain individuals that have sciences and technologies. And some people are in the middle of their flight, in the beginnings and in the new starts of their lives where they actually bring us some great sciences. Today we have Jeremy McGowan and Taylor Lyle. These were two individuals that we brought in last time and we’re gonna hopefully have them come back and share with us their technologies. Jeremy brings a background. He works in the military, really smart guy. All these kids are really smarter than I am. It’s a beginning of time where we can see that the knowledge that the military has brought out has brought really great talent from around the world. [00:02:11][113.8]
[00:02:12] Jeremy is from Panama City, correct? Yes, sir. Yes. And Taylor, where are you from? Dallas. Fort Worth. [00:02:17][5.5]
[00:02:18] Dallas, Fort Worth. And one of the great things that I love about this, this whole story is that they’re here in El Paso and a lot of people don’t know this. And their expertise and knowledge are not only for us to to to benefit from, but they’re benefitting and they’re teaching the people that are here, the military, through their sciences and their techniques and their specialties and their licenses. So we really, really do have a moment in time where now the world is advancing in El Paso. So what I’d like to do is I’d like to say, introduce, you know, Kenna Vaughn. She’s over there on the side so you can see her. She’s there, she’s out. She’s anchoring on the side, making sure that my cameras work well and that I don’t stutter too much. Then we have Taylor Lyle and we have Jeremy. Jeremy McGowan. Correct. Yes. OK. And what we want to talk about a little bit about fitness training and the ideas about specifically about strength training, nutrition and as it pertains to collegiate sports and as well as power training for the military. So these kinds of sciences are very important for people to correlate. Now, do they cross lines? They cross lines for athletes in high school. So these sciences and these techniques are going to be good. But I like to know a little bit about Jeremy today. Jeremy, welcome to the show. And the people are here watching and they’re interested in understanding what it is that you do. So tell us a little bit about what you do and what you’ve done and where you came from. And we’ll leave it from there. Go ahead. [00:03:42][84.7]
[00:03:43] So, like you said, first, I’m from close to Panama City, Florida, a little tiny, small town. I went to Troy University on a baseball scholarship. It’s a D1 University in Alabama, close to Montgomery. So southeast Alabama, played there for five years. Soon as I got done playing slid right into coaching, I coached there for a little bit over three years. I ran baseball and softball, mostly assisted with other sports, the football, volleyball, soccer. A lot of others. Got offered a job out here to slot into the military side of things to coach. Getting really turn it down. Really, really enjoy what I’m doing here, running the physical training programs or the PT programs for a battalion at Fort Bliss. So I’ve worked with two separate battalions. We run the PT program, reconditioning program and then we work hand-in-hand. Kind of help write their PT programs so that when we’re not with them, they have a better idea of what to do. [00:04:36][53.1]
[00:04:37] I got a question for you. And you said that you’re an athlete going back to that. What position did you play? I pitched. You pitched. Oh, so you’re the dude. You’re the man. [00:04:44][7.0]
[00:04:45] You know, I was a closer started a little bit, but mostly closed. I really just tried to throw as hard as I could. That’s about it. Were you good? I like to think so. But you know some people might tell you differently. [00:04:57][11.8]
[00:04:58] Well, don’t be modest. Don’t be modest. You gotta say that you’re good at what you do. You know where I came from when I was a little boy. We got to see this out here in Mexico. We got this guy named Fernando Valenzuela. Well, remember that guy. Yeah. [00:05:11][13.4]
[00:05:11] Man was he was a Dodgers. Oh, man. I remember this big chunky looking dude that just could rip the ball. Definitely it didn’t look like he was a pitcher. But really, you know. But here’s the thing. Here’s the thing that I know now that I didn’t know then that people who got strong cores can really, really propel their force. Right. And this dude had a thick core, he busted up some gloves. Oh, hey. So let me ask you, what did the military see in you that they wanted to provide for this local community? [00:05:44][32.8]
[00:05:45] So the way that it kind of worked this whole program started as a very small pilot. There were five strength conditioning coaches and that was the first people on the ground. So that was it. And then it expanded. Now there are 60 coaches across a few bases in the U.S. So basically they needed qualified coaches that had an experience. So they wanted guys that had been a strength coach, you know, three-plus years, whatever, to lead the way. The assistants could have a little bit less experience but had to be certified, had to have a little bit of experience in the field so that they could get some, you know, guys in the run PT programs that were used to running large groups. So they wanted guys mainly from the collegiate side because we’re a little more used to running large groups, the private sector as well, depending on where they were at. Obviously, if they’re, you know, only working there for a very small amount of time, it might not be as much, but… They really wanted to focus on, you know, the qualifications, so having that Master’s degree and having that call and having that certification was the main thing. [00:06:44][59.0]
[00:06:45] I’ll tell you what, I saw you’re, clearly that you’re a really, really smart that both of you guys have resumes that are just amazing. And I got to tell you, the talent that the military brings this town is amazing. So don’t feel shy. Go ahead and tell people you got the big ‘ol Masters because that’s huge because you’re only one step away from a Ph.D. Let me ask you this because that’s very curious. The military has different departments, different battalions. What is it? [00:07:07][22.2]
[00:07:07] How many people in the battalion, the one that we were in originally there was around 410, 450. This one’s larger. So there are five companies. Each company is comprised of around 100 people. So there’s upwards of 550 in the battalion right now that we work with. [00:07:22][14.3]
[00:07:22] I’ll tell you what, we’re used to running a little bit of a Crossfit center. We’re actually coming from the Push Fitness Center. And 20, 30 kids at one time is a lot. How can you manage the largeness or the immensity of those groups together? [00:07:34][12.2]
[00:07:35] We kind of set up circuit style training for the most part. So we try to run stations with them. Luckily, I do have another strength coach, it’s not just me. So that helps a lot. We split the group up into two. Normally we’ll run a lifting type station and then a running type station and one of us will run each and we get about the halfway point. We’ll switch. So he’ll come over if I’m running the training. The strength training station to begin with. We’ll just flip flop. So he’ll bring his group over the straight training. I’ll take my group of the running and we’ll do that for the last half. So we usually have around outside tops around 80 people in a group. It would be the most that we would have and we would have 40 and 40 apiece. [00:08:09][34.0]
[00:08:10] Jeremy so you can pretty much see all these guys in different, I guess, techniques whether this is a running area. This is a strength area. You can see them all line sight kind of in the distance. [00:08:19][8.8]
[00:08:19] Yeah. That’s the goal. So with the strength training sessions, we set up kind of a semicircle on those stations so that I can just walk around the semicircle and then be able to see everyone. [00:08:29][9.6]
[00:08:30] And then as far as the running goes, it’s normally we do more anaerobic style training, some more sprint type work so that we can be right there telling them, you know, running the rest times, telling them, you know what, Tom, we’re trying to be on the run, whatever might be so that we can actually manage it a little more. [00:08:44][13.8]
[00:08:44] Wow. Taylor, we’re gonna get with you in a second there, so go ahead and drink some water. We’re going to get to you in a minute. But I got to ask a question for you. When you look at as a strength coach, do you have a deep-seated philosophy and the way things are done? And I assume and I don’t know, it seems like you’re beginning’s were with baseball. Correct. How do you apply that? That science and the level of mechanical sciences to the different kinds of levels and different types of specialties in the military. Let’s say you got some. Right, you know. I don’t know what kind of things they do. Let’s say the mechanics versus the heavy-duty artillery gunners. How do you change that up for them? [00:09:20][35.9]
[00:09:21] So one thing that’s really, really changed over for me with baseball to this is obviously with baseball I worked, with a lot of overhead throwing athletes. So a lot of shoulder problems, a lot of shoulder stability, things like that, that I was really trying to work with something that I’ve noticed in this military sector because of the way they’ve trained for so long. There they have a lot of shoulder injuries. There’s a lot of shoulder problems, a lot of instabilities as far as their, you know, way overcompensating. Their shoulders are starting to round from doing push-ups for so many years and not getting the proper training along with that. So having that expertise on that side of things, it’s helped me a lot as far as training, you know, different types of people. So I work in a BSB right now, so I haven’t really worked a whole lot with infantry, BSB Brigade Support Battalion. [00:10:06][45.2]
[00:10:06] Okay, got you. [00:10:07][0.4]
[00:10:07] We have a lot of mechanics, medics, communications people. It’s not a whole lot of high-speed guys. So we’re not really working with a lot of infantry type people. [00:10:17][9.7]
[00:10:17] We’re not working with a lot of guys that are really, really out there and really, really active. So a lot of the times, the people that we work with, the main things that we’re working on is landing mechanics, proper lifting technique, because we do have guys that have to lift some heavier stuff with transport and stuff like that. And in landing mechanics, guys jump out at trucks all the time. They’re in big, tall trucks, whatever might be. So those two things are something that we really try to work on so that in their day to day jobs, they don’t get hurt. [00:10:46][28.6]
[00:10:46] You know, when you say landing mechanics, whether it’s volleyball or anything, you know, that’s got to be the almost second nature. Oh, yeah. You know, I’ve seen that in the last couple of the last decade or two. I see the philosophy changing in the military, specifically in their ideas and their fitness goals. Recently, they’ve done some changes in their new programs where they actually if you don’t pass these certain things, you don’t even get the vacation time or even have even time to or migrate up in the ranks. But based on this performance, I’ve heard a lot about this ruck thing. What is this ruck thing? Yeah. Yeah, I heard. How much weight is it? Because they don’t care if you’re a 180-pound person or a ninety-five-pound lady, they’re still going to carry the same weight. [00:11:27][40.8]
[00:11:27] So there are different size rucksacks. It can be depending on really what your unit wants for that day or what type of thing you’re doing. So. Sure, you might have heard of the Baton Death March that happens here once a year. Yes, it did. So there are two separate standards for that. There’s a military light and the military heavy on the rucksacks are different. I don’t remember the exact way, but I want to say it’s 40 and 80 pounds. OK. If I remember right. Could be wrong on that. But it’s somewhere around that. And so that’s the light standard and the heavy standard as far as what they do in a normal setting for a rucksack. They kind of set it up for themselves. So basically, if a unit’s going on a ruck, they might tell you, hey, load it with as much as you want. Here’s how long we’re going, be able to do that in this fast. So they get to kind of pick their rucksack weight, depending on what they can handle. [00:12:13][45.6]
[00:12:13] Is it 40 through 80 or 40 and 80? [00:12:15][1.8]
[00:12:16] So in the baton it’s 40 and 80. But if they set it up themselves, they could do 40 through 80 as just depending on what they want to run with. [00:12:23][6.6]
[00:12:23] Yeah. You know, what do you look for in terms of an individual in order for them to say, oh, this dude’s going to just kind of wreck his back or he’s going to mess his shoulders up? What do you how do you tweak it so that you can kind of help them not get injured? [00:12:35][12.3]
[00:12:36] It’s, so posture’s a big part of it. Again, a lot of guys have rounded shoulders, so that translates over into the ruck as well. Well, they’ve got a heavy rucksack on their back. They start to hunch over round their back, their shoulders are already rounded. So you’re putting a lot of stress on the back, which I know you’re kind of the guy for that. [00:12:54][18.0]
[00:12:55] Oh, my God. I live with that every day, you know. Oh, you mean how we treat them? [00:13:05][10.2]
[00:13:05] You know what that can do to a back. And, you know, so there’s an issue that we try to fix. We do a lot of pulling, a lot of rows, a lot of rear delt work to try to get those shoulders back right. And stop the hunching. Stop the rolled shoulders. So that’s one thing that we try to do. And then again, as far as the lower body goes, proper gait is something that we try to work on, on the PTs work on that a little bit more than we do. But proper running mechanics, proper gait can obviously help with a lot of hip ankle knee issues. That a lot of guys have when they’re out there because they’re on uneven terrain. A lot of times rucking. They’re wearing their boots. You know, they’re not necessarily in the best running gear. So we try to do as much as we can to combat the problems that that can cause. [00:13:49][43.5]
[00:13:49] I find this to be so amazing that the both of you guys are here. Taylor, I know that you guys work together and I know we were introduced with you and the vast amount of expertise that you have and shared with us last time. But how do you guys interact? How does the diet world and the physical training world work together with Jeremy’s dynamics? [00:14:09][20.3]
[00:14:11] Yes. So we work hand in hand. I mean, you really can’t train without nutrition. So I’m out there a lot of times at the P.T. sessions, whether I’m trying to participate myself or just help the soldiers. So, you know, just making sure that they eat something in the morning, that’s a big issue that we see, is that they don’t have enough energy. And they wonder why they can’t finish their workout sometimes. So, you know, that is something that we both preach and then making sure that they eat something afterward, whether it’s going straight to breakfast or they’re getting some type of post-workout recovery modality. So we work with that. And then, you know, I do quite a bit of one on one counseling. And so a lot of times when I’m meeting with a variety of soldiers, you know, strength and conditioning come up in my conversation and we do a referral system. So I’ll refer them to Jeremy and, you know, follow up with him. And then, you know, a lot of times they’ll meet with them individually, give them a training program. And so we’re constantly urging communication with the best practices and, you know, how do we work towards the common goal. [00:15:25][74.0]
[00:15:26] So, you know, Jeremy, in terms of when you look at someone and you see them, they’re just they need help. You know, this kid is. He means well. But you can see him falling apart because you get that instinct like this kid’s going to blow out at something. He’s just not there. He looks ashy. He’s not eating well. How do you bring in Taylor in this dynamics, in that situation? [00:15:47][20.4]
[00:15:48] So a lot of the times I can really see it closer to the end of a workout as she said. Their energy levels are just low. You know, they can’t even, during the break period, they’re sitting down, they’re lying down. They’re trying to drink something and they can hardly drink as their stomach’s upset, you know. So I can tell pretty quickly if somebody has not eaten or is struggling with the nutrition side of things. And if that’s the case, then I’ll tell them, hey, you know, we’ve got a dietitian. We’ve got somebody that can help you. I can help a little bit in terms of telling you you need to eat something before you come out here. But she can help you, you know, in a better way than I can. [00:16:22][34.2]
[00:16:23] You guys coordinate a little bit. Kind of like this one is going to be a rough one. OK. We need to know where they’re going. They’re gonna be on the floor today. [00:16:29][6.4]
[00:16:30] There are some times that, you know, we can tell, you know, I can tell when I set up the circuit, like, okay. These guys are gonna get broke off a little bit, you know, and especially the ones that I’ve looked at and I know that she’s talked to, I’d make sure with them before those days. Hey, did you eat anything? And if not, then, you know, I’ll try to help out as much as I can, like, take breaks, you know, make sure you eat something next time, though, because this is how the sessions are going to continue to be for right now. [00:16:58][28.1]
[00:16:58] Guys, can you feel what I’m seeing, guys? And I’ve got to tell you when I started here in 1991, literally the military treated from my vantage point, again, I’m civilian and I don’t have to follow the rules, but like, they are set up there. But I could sense that the world was like Full Metal Jacket. It was really intense. It was a really harsh environment. And as you can tell, these two individuals are the forefront of the military to this day. So one of the things is I have to ask you both one question. Do you guys care about your guys? Oh, yeah, yeah, yes. You know what I got to tell you? You know what? I see this from the captains. Now, the world in the military is totally pro. There are people in a way that I have never seen go back two decades ago, three decades to 1991. I could not even get my hands on a military patient. They just would not let anyone outside the military take care of the people today. You guys are. Are you in the military? Both of you. No. No. [00:17:55][56.2]
[00:17:55] Contractors. See they’re bringing in the outside world. They’re also letting the inside go out. It’s awesome to see that because from my point of view, the caring that’s involved had to move from the top down and to have you guys from around the world, there’s got to be some amazing crew of people recruiting you guys. And I got to tell you, it makes me very proud because from the senators, you know, that actually made the Fort Bliss to become as big as it is now. And as it’s moved up, you see a lot of kind, caring sergeants, colonels, commanders that really care about their people. [00:18:33][38.1]
[00:18:34] And I got to tell you, it makes me feel really cool for an individual out there because I’ve got a kid who is your age. Right. So, you know, you guys got, you know, your guys taking care of him. So it’s a great thing. [00:18:43][9.8]
[00:18:44] Let me ask you, in terms of focusing on the dynamics of, let’s say over the shoulder, you had mentioned that shoulder thing going into that particular area is now for my vantage point, I’m a real lover of the shoulder girdle and the way the word and how it works together when you put something on the shoulder back in the day, there was one thing that really destroyed everyone’s shoulder. People didn’t realize this was this military. It was like a football jacket that had weights on it and they’d load it up in the front in the back, and you could put on, you know, some weights on it. These people had shoulder problems because of the pressure of the on the chromium, on the clavicle. And this happened. How is it that you kind of prevent a shoulder injury in terms of what you’ve seen when they wear things that are compressing them like a rucksack? [00:19:32][48.3]
[00:19:33] So part of that is the way they wear their rucksack. Our PTs do a really good job of demonstrating to them the proper technique of how to wear a rucksack, how to tie it down the right way so that it’s not putting a lot of pressure on their shoulders. That’s not something that necessarily I do, but that’s one way of combating it. As far as my role in it, I’m really just trying to strengthen the whole shoulder girdle and that whole area of the upper back, upper traps, whatever it might be done to try to take some load off so that they have a little bit of a shelf or something to sit it on. So we do a lot of like I said, we’re dealt work. We do a lot of rotator cuff work and a lot of trap work as well, so that they do get a little bit of that shelf. [00:20:15][41.7]
[00:20:15] All right. Well, that gives me a good understanding. I want to know the difference between an NCAA Division One athlete and the military athlete. How do you go about training and start like what are the similarities? And we’re going to try to look at the differences to contrast that specifically in that science. Go ahead and tell me a little bit about what you do for with your philosophies. [00:20:37][21.8]
[00:20:38] So similarities wise I would say the main things is their want to. A lot of times the military guys, the ones that are a little more high speed, they really want to get after it on PT. Right. So they’re one harder sessions. They want to sweat. They want to feel like they got something done. The NCAA guys are the same way. You know, they don’t want to come in and do one exercise and be done. They want to lift heavy. They want to get big. They want to get strong. And it’s the same way here. The only issue is here the training age is so much lower as compared to an NCAA Division One athlete. So when I would get a guy at college, you know, 18 years old. But he came straight out of high school. That was a 6A, 7A, 5A high school, you know, some bigger school played football for four years. He’s been working out since he was in eighth grade. These guys come here and, you know, I’ve got a lot of people that are 30 years old that didn’t play sports in high school, that have been in the military since they were 18. And they’ve been training wrong for 12 years since they got in the military. So their true training age is really nothing. [00:21:43][64.8]
[00:21:44] You know, they don’t really have good movement pattern. They don’t have an idea of really how to lift. They don’t have an idea of, you know, the right way to warm up, the right way to cool down anything like that. So it’s a lot more teaching here as compared to I could really get up and running at a Division One school like I was in about three or four weeks. I was up and running, had guys going full speed almost. So and here it’s a lot of teaching. [00:22:08][23.6]
[00:22:08] Jeremy, do you work with the reserves also? I do not. So we’re just with the active duty. Active duty. [00:22:14][5.6]
[00:22:15] So you mentioned 30 years old. OK. How does that work? And what’s your approach for a 30-year-old versus an 18-year-old? That’s got to do the same procedure. [00:22:22][7.6]
[00:22:23] The 18-year-olds are a little bit easier to teach. Their movement patterns are a little bit easier to pick up on because they haven’t been doing it wrong for so many years. Right. So if an 18-year-old and this is true across any population, whether it’s military or whatever, these guys, it kind of sticks a little faster. Right. So you teach them something two or three times they might have it, whereas this 30, 35-year-old guy that’s been doing this movement, but he’s been doing it wrong for 12 years. You know, when you try to teach him the correct way to do it, it might take eight, 10, 12, 15 sessions for him to finally get it down. And the issue with that is because of how many people are in the battalion, we might only get one or two sessions with him a week. So it might take four months for him to finally get this movement pattern down. And that slows down a lot of people in the process. [00:23:08][44.9]
[00:23:09] Do you separate them to kind of keep them on a different sack of or direction? [00:23:12][3.3]
[00:23:13] So we try to the issue with that is there. You know, if you’ve got one guy in Bravo Company and one guy, an Alpha company that is in the same boat, they don’t really do PT together. So it’s hard to separate within the same company, those people, because you might get that company once or twice a week. So if I’m really trying to separate the guys that are picking up on the guys that aren’t the groups, you’re going to be one of the really small. Or they’re just going to stop coming because they’re not getting enough out of it. [00:23:38][24.8]
[00:23:38] Taylor, in answering that same question, when you see those young kids that and versus the older or how do you approach the diet changes as well as just the approach of nutrition for them going through the same process in terms of the program? [00:23:55][16.3]
[00:23:56] Yes. Just what Jeremy said, you know, the 18-year-old scenario, they typically you know, they want to get better. They want to do what it takes to make it to the next level, which would be professional. And so I feel like they strive to want to get better. They’re a little bit more intuitive to that and receptive. And the, you know, 30-year-old, it’s not that they aren’t receptive. But, you know, a lot of them will have a family, whether that’s a spouse and children. And, you know, you have to take, you know, other factors that may be out of their control to have this success. So really, just in both scenarios, education component, there is so much room to grow, you know, unless someone maybe you went through like Ranger school a little bit more elite on the tactical side, you know, they might be a little bit more attuned to the nutrition and already know what to do around training and recovery. So they might not need as much education and guidance. But definitely there’s a lot of room to grow and both collegiate and military setting for nutrition. [00:25:09][73.5]
[00:25:10] All right. We’re gonna throw it to another gear here. Now, we’re dealing with in my thought process, as you take these young men to the next level, you’re going to deal with some elite guys. And that’s where a lot of my, you know, kids here, the Division one athletes, they correlate. And I got to tell you, from what I’ve seen, because I treat quite a few of the strange cats that go off to the journeys and they go into their, you know, the jungles, these are different kinds of characters. They have different mindsets. And there are at the highest level. Some of these guys are literally in their early, late 30s. And they’re just like that, you can see. In their eyes, they’re just ready to go climb trees, get in the jungle. [00:25:47][36.6]
[00:25:48] These individuals, these elite, these tactical guys, these ones that are that have percolated up to the highest level. How do you work with those individuals and what do you do in terms of trying to maintain them at their sharpest level? [00:26:01][13.5]
[00:26:03] So those guys are a little bit more obviously, like you said, they’re high speed. So they are more like working with a Division One athlete. Honestly, there’s been strength conditioning coaches in the special ops side of things for years and years. There are a lot more in tune with that side of things, with knowing the proper technique. Knowing how things are really supposed to work and knowing how they’re supposed to feel. So, you know, if they have a problem, they’re a lot more likely to either know if it’s actually pain or an actual injury. They can actually handle the two of them whereas guys that are not used to working out to them, you know, having pain and being sore the day after a workout, they’re hurt. You know, these guys are a little more in tune with their body and they’re a lot more likely to be able to push themselves through your workouts so you can go a lot heavier with them. You can do more of a, you know, true tier-based or strength-based or whatever it might be program that you want to do to get them better and better. [00:27:05][61.7]
[00:27:05] You know, when I was going to college, there were these programs that came out, strength training programs, where you could actually calculate how strong an individual was if they followed this tier, you know, go through these many deadlifts, do it this way, do it these reps. And over time, you were gonna go, you know, in a linear progression upwards. It was amazing that you could actually do it that way. Do you feel that if you push these athletes, you watch them improve, especially the top tier one that you can actually push them to, you know, an amazing level of accomplishment with tough training? [00:27:41][36.0]
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[00:32:56] Jeremy, how do you look at that stuff? And do you are you privy to that information and do you apply it to the flight that you’re doing? [00:33:02][6.0]
[00:33:02] So I don’t really get the actual numbers. Taylor is the one that gets those numbers and she would just share with me, hey, you know, this guy might need a little extra help. You know, as far as losing some weight goes, this guy is in the standards. He wants to gain a little bit of weight and he can, you know, that kind of thing, whatever it might be. So I don’t get the actual numbers, but I do get some information from her that I can help the guys with. [00:33:23][20.1]
[00:33:23] You know, one of the things that we realize in health care is the unification of data as well as integration of other sciences. You two guys met at a… Obviously, I’d like to know a little bit about how you guys introduce yourselves and how did you guys interact and how did you. Because, Taylor, you kind of talk to me about Jeremy. And I got to tell you, Jeremy seems to be an amazing guy. That’s got a lot of knowledge. And we and I really appreciate that. But how did you guys get to interact together? How did that process go in terms of for the purpose of the military? [00:33:56][33.1]
[00:33:58] Yes, so, yes, Jeremy is an excellent strength coach and it’s been a pleasure working with him. We actually work for two different contract companies, so we just were put together by chance, to be honest. And I mean, we just really clicked since day one, our personalities match really well. So that’s really where it began. And Jeremy has been here for almost two years and I’ve been here for almost a year. So he’s been here a lot longer than me. But so we met when I started. [00:34:28][29.3]
[00:34:28] Gotcha. In terms of your overall goals for the military and the dynamics for the athletes, let’s go back into the world of a little bit of the athletic division one. And now let’s also consider the fact that the sciences you have can also be applied to even the general public and even to kids at that level. And I know a lot of my patients have parents out there that want their kids to benefit from the best ideas and philosophies. And one of the things is that you realize that it’s not so much about knowledge. It’s about philosophy. It’s about your point of view. It’s the way you stand in what you think about how can we take what the military does in its sciences and its progression sciences to get these athletes and these individuals ready for battle. To our kids, how can we apply that if you can kind of reach into I don’t know if you’ve got kids, but if you do deal with kids, how would you apply those sciences to even the young, young high school, younger people population? [00:35:32][63.3]
[00:35:33] So I actually one of my papers or whatever for my masters was about strength training in kids because it was something that really, really interested me, because all my life I heard kids shouldn’t lift weights. Kids shouldn’t do this. It stunts their growth. It does. You know, it’s bad for them, whatever. [00:35:49][15.8]
[00:35:50] And honestly, everything that you read research-wise says otherwise. That’s just been a myth that’s been out there for so long that people started to believe it. So for me, as far as translating my side over to the general population. Younger kids all the way up to high school, it honestly starts with GPP, which is just general physical preparedness. So being able to handle their body weight, being able to learn movement patterns. So obviously push-ups, pull-ups, things like that for body weight, but then movement patterned on the squat, the landing mechanics like we talked about, things like that, and then just the general agility and movement stuff. So playing tag, doing things that are actually active outdoors. [00:36:29][38.9]
[00:37:12] So, you know, have him, you know, just practice squatting and making sure the knees are pointing out over the toes. He’s not getting valgus knee is not caving and he’s not you know, when he’s walking his gait pattern is good. When he’s running his gait pattern is good when he’s planting his foot. You know, stop and go playing tag with his friends. He’s, you know, actually planting sinking into that hip and driving off. You know, there’s little tiny things that you can look at that can help with those movement patterns as they get older and hopefully combat the chances of injuries as they get older. And then once as they get older and those movement patterns are more ingrained, then you can start adding some weight to stuff you can start doing. You know, even just goblet squats is where I would start. So a kettlebell or dumbbell holding a single thing. So you’re not actually loading the spine things like that and floor press and med ball throws and different things like that where you’re adding weight once those get learned more ingrained than you just are getting into the bigger lift. You know, you get to the big three, the squat bench deadlift, the Olympic lifting type stuff, whatever it is, Taylor, he is good. [00:38:12][59.6]
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[00:42:18] Taylor, you know you’re talking, right? I mean, this is amazing stuff in terms of its dynamics and specifically for recovery. How do you guys play into kids or young men that are injured in the nutrition component? How do you help them? How do you support the dynamics of the nutrition component? I know we talked about a little bit, but can you go back into it and talk about the things that you look at at the micronutrient level, as well as the macronutrient level to get these guys to be able to sustain the loads that they’re going to be under and provide them their best option? [00:42:53][34.6]
[00:42:54] Yes. So it goes back to recovery, nutrition, and the nutrient timing and making sure I mean, you’re breaking down your muscles when you’re working out and you’re trying to build them back up, grow. And so, you know, what’s going to do that is protein and carbohydrates. So making sure you have a three to one ratio of carbohydrates to protein. You know, that’s going to help them replenish their stores, their energy stores and also build muscle. And then from an injury standpoint, it’s just again, you know, making sure that depending on the injury will depend on the prescription for nutrition. But overall, you want to make sure that they have enough energy needs first and foremost, and they’re going to be less active typically. So, you know, you might not need as high of calorie needs that they would when they would be training. And the same with carbohydrates. It is your primary energy source, but you’re not going to be training as hard. So typically that is going to be lower. Now, your protein needs are going to be almost twice as high as they normally would be to really make sure that you’re, you know, getting the growth and nutrients you need for the protein and for the muscles to just recover from the injury, and then fat also plays a huge role as well. So and then micronutrients, you’re going to look at your B vitamins, zinc, vitamin C, vitamin A. You know, magnesium, those are all going to help in the wound healing injury recovery aspect as well. And then also immune support, which is really important. [00:44:36][101.9]
[00:44:37] Jeremy, thank you. Jeremy, they’re leaving now the day, they’re all exhausted. They’re all whooped on. Right. What are the words of advice that you give them about what they’re gonna eat tonight? You know, and let’s say you got an individual that’s just they just look bad. And what do you tell them? How do you tell them to rehab? Recover? I guess is a good word. [00:44:55][18.4]
[00:44:56] So for me, I’d try to preach high carb, high protein once after. So obviously, like she said, protein plays a big part in the recovery side of things. And they just depleted a lot of their carb sources during the workout. So that’s really what I try to preach, our sessions are in the morning. So a lot of times they’ve barely eaten anything as we’ve mentioned before. And if they have, it’s a lot of times not enough. So I try to preach. Get some carb sources, get some protein, get some eggs, get an omelet. They make you omelets in there. I know they do because I’ve been in there, eat one, you know, get something that can actually help you recover from this workout. [00:45:35][38.3]
[00:45:35] You mentioned, you know, they would sometimes show up without eating properly. You know, that’s a problem with a lot of the athletes. So they’re, you know, especially younger ones. They want to look good for some of the ones so they can volleyball. But some wrestlers, they got to, you know, have the basics, too. And for different types of athletes, different things for the population that you’re dealing with in order to get them better. What is the baseline good level of carbohydrates and what type of drinks or what kind of foods do you offer or recommend them at least get in that much so that they don’t end up totally running and being depleted by the end of the program. [00:46:12][36.3]
[00:46:13] So they’ll need 30 to 60 grams of carbohydrate, 30 minutes to an hour right before working now. And like Jeremy said, a lot of times, the workout is at six-thirty in the morning. So you’re not going to have the ideal scenario where people are eating three hours meal before they, you know, train. So. [00:46:30][17.7]
[00:46:31] So when you just wait. I’m sorry. When you said that 30 to 60 grams. So. So thirty-one twenty to 240 calories. Just a start up the engine. Right. Is that right? Is that a good fare. [00:46:40][9.0]
[00:46:41] Yeah. So that is fair. So what that looks like is 30 grams could be a banana or it could be a couple of slices of toast. You typically want something that is going to digest very well. So that’s going to be low in protein, low in fat and low in fiber. So that is going to be a carbohydrate source. You’re going to want to isolate that carbohydrate to avoid any digestion issues. So, you know, for people that can’t handle solid foods as well, I always recommend liquids. It’s already converted. So something as simple as a 20 ounce Gatorade. You know, if they can take something a little in between solid and liquid applesauce pouch, you know, there are so many varieties at the grocery store now for kids or adults. And, you know, just taking one of those apple sauces will also help meet that need. [00:47:33][51.8]
[00:47:33] You know, as you start your training program in the morning, what kind of things do you do? How do you ramp up the training program? Jeremy, I’d like to know a little bit about that, like take me through a day in your world. [00:47:45][11.7]
[00:47:46] So with ramping it up goes. As I said, we might get guys once or twice a week. So it’s a very, very slow process. It’s also dependent upon their battle rhythm. So, you know, we might get guys say twice a week. So we do have to get a group twice a week, which is what we were that whole battalion. We get every company twice a week. We might get them for six weeks and then they’re gone for three weeks doing a field training exercise and they completely detrain. Right. They’re doing nothing but sitting there for a lot of the time and, you know, practice in military type stuff, they’re not getting any physical training in. It’s not mandatory out there. It’s not necessary. And nobody does it and they can’t really shower. So nobody really wants to get sweaty and stuff. Right. So those three weeks when they come back, we kind of have to reset. There’s not really that much of a ramp-up. It’s a lot of general physical preparedness stuff. We do a lot of bodyweight stuff. And then a lot of the big three, we try to progress those as much as we can. So like right now, because we just kind of restarted with this battalion, with the whole COVID thing going on. We’re doing a lot of goblet squats. We’re doing trap bar. Deadlifts are extremely important. That’s going to be in their new PT test. [00:48:58][71.9]
[00:48:59] What was that? Trap bar deadlift. A different name for it, but we do that. And then right now, we’re doing floor press and we’re planning to progress the goblet squad into a front squat, front squat to back squat. Right. So that’ll be the progression there. The floor press will progress into the bench press. [00:49:16][17.6]
[00:49:17] Are those the three that you’re talking about? The three? [00:49:18][1.3]
[00:49:19] Yeah. So those are kind of the big three is your deadlift, your squat, and your bench. And so that’s your main three strength lift, right. That’s what everybody wants to be good at. So that’s the three that we kind of focus on. But we’ll set up circuits around that. So if we’re doing so, you have floor press, right? We’ll try to do some kind of a pull with that, whether it’s rear delt or an actual row. So it might be a kettlebell row, dumbbell row. Some like that. And then we’ll do a lower body exercise with that. So we try to go full body every workout session. So we’re getting upper, lower-end core. We try to do the main lift is for strength. So if it’s floor press, squats, or deadlifts, it’s more of your strength-based stuff. So it’s more that max effort. So it might be sets of four sets of five. Some like that with a heavier weight. We try to work up to a heavy load. Then everything else is more hypertrophy based. So it’s more work capacity. We’re trying to do, you know, a little bit of a lighter weight, but it’s still going to be heavy not to where it makes them work for those eight to 12 to 15 reps, whatever we might do. [00:50:21][61.6]
[00:50:21] Do you mix it? Like, do you have some hypertrophy versus agility and versus body mechanics stuff or do you have like certain days. Today’s Body Mechanic Day today is power today. This today is Hypertrophy Day. [00:50:30][9.3]
[00:50:31] So right now, because we don’t really know what group we’re going to get every day with stuff going on so they’re, kind of work in shifts. They’re not there every day. So we might have one group one day. It might be the same exact people, you know, for a full week. It might be. They come every other day. So the plan right now basically is we go up there, we set up three lifts. Monday was a Friday or lift days, Tuesday a more run day, though. And like I said, the running is more anaerobic stuff. So sprint stuff. But on those sprint days, we do more. We do lift more. But it’s more bodyweight work capacity stuff. So we’ll do a lot of push-ups, pull-ups, sit-ups, squats, lunges. But it’s all bodyweight type stuff and that’ll be all in a circuit with some running involved. And then on the lift days, it’s, you know, like I said, that one lift strength. Everything else is more hypertrophy/work capacity. So it’s all high reps and. [00:51:24][53.2]
[00:51:26] It’s kind of tough to get a lot of hypertrophy type stuff in because of the box that we’re working out of. So we have a gym that’s inside a box. You had to pull all the weight out. There’s not really enough weight to load up a lot of stuff if we want to do a lot of squats. We need weights for that. Right. So we need weights. But on the barbell, well, there’s only eight forty-fives. Eight thirty-five, eight twenty-five, and eight tenths. So if I have four stations of squats like that up, I’d need almost all of that weight to be able to handle that. So I can’t use that weight on anything else, whether it’s the sleds, the trap bars, whatever it might be. So I have to come up with stuff with bands and kettlebells is really I see an invention there. [00:52:02][36.8]
[00:52:03] I think there’s an invention in there and what I’m hearing is, is that your gym doesn’t go out to the outside that easy. So is that what I’m getting? Like you want to be able to have a piece of equipment, has all your stuff on it, so you just drag it off that thing. [00:52:14][11.5]
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[00:56:59] I really believe that what he just said was a huge component? Now he has spent his whole life understanding body dynamics. And he ended up understanding and now the military gets it in a different level. The translation of force comes from the core. It is huge. When you hear med ball slams, that is a body that’s going to its fullest out and slamming at a full range of motion. When you’re seeing hip flexes, you’re pulling that hip to the furthest, deepest dungeon of movement, to the furthest extreme on the outside. So to be able to do that, to be able to translate, weight and slowed and sled movements, you’re gonna need a powerful core. The dynamics of it are the ability to move it through time and space at a certain rate of speed. How long you do it, you can do it a little bit, that’s strength. But power means you can translate it over twenty-five feet or so and hit back and forth. So we’re really pushing the body to a level that is amazing. I have sat down with certain patients of mine and they find that that theory. And I found it to be very interesting that deep tuck, the knee tuck, and the deep flexion movements. Where did that philosophy come from and you have as a physiologist and the nutrition strength coach? How did that come in? Where did that come from that they realized that those particular movements, the slam ball, as well as the deep tuck, became a crucial component in the military action? [00:58:26][86.2]
[00:58:27] So I know the people are well, Major Matthews’, that actually used to run H two F, she’s transferred over to a different side of the military now, but she used to work at the Olympic training facility in Colorado. And I know she helped develop the test. So I would guess I don’t know for sure, but I would guess she played a big role in that. Yeah, because she, you know, does know a lot more about that side of things. I know she helped create, you know, with the power throw and stuff. [00:58:57][29.5]
[00:58:57] What’s her name, shout out again? Major Matthews. Major Matthews. OK. [00:58:59][2.7]
[00:59:00] So you know we met her, she came down I think it was a little bit before Taylor got here so she came down to talk to us and explained about the test and why they were doing it and whatever. And she played a big part in developing a test because of her background. [00:59:18][18.4]
[00:59:19] Have you guys gone to Colorado Springs before to take a look at the Olympic Center? I have not. I have not either. You know what? I got to go there. But there, you know, I got to watch from the outside inward. And you got to I got to tell you that you can see top athletes from around the world. I mean, from powerlifters. But you can see that they’re not very big in the sense of muscular build. But you can see that every athlete had a trainer with them and usually it’s a physical therapist that was right with them. And they were talking mechanics and movements. And these athletes and all the sports that they have, you see this amazing. It’s almost like watching something out of an amazing superpower show where you see these athletes running from all different directions…
And these are the top athletes in the world training centers from swimmers to high bolt whatever the sport is, I can imagine, but you can see them training in the center and they really focus on the range of motion. And you can see the physical therapist showing the motion. And actually the intensity of the movement is really, really important. So that science of Deep Tuck and translation of force is huge now. And it’s amazing that now to be able to do that is at the forefront of the military’s progression. Let me ask you this. Now that you know and you’re in your science and understanding is about the youth. How do you correlate that and take me into the progression of how to get kids, let’s say, a high school kid into doing that particular component of translation of forces so that we can make them great at being a lineman or just torquing the heck out of someone in wrestling. You know, kind of that deal. [00:00:54][54.1]
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You know, I’ve got to tell you, you know, I could sit here and talk for over an hour. This is it. We’ve been over at least 60 minutes here. People are gonna look at me and YouTube is going to shut me out. But I’ve got to tell you, this has been literally an exciting moment because, between the both of you, I feel like I’m in a show of Jumanji of knowledge. You know, it’s like I just opened up a Pandora and you guys are full of knowledge. That is great. Again, I got to tell you, El Paso has these individuals. And if you, again, I don’t yield, the information will be on there for them if you want to communicate with them. I’ve got to tell you, we have them. We have such great talents, such smart individuals out there. Birds of a feather flock together. So for both of you, I can see how you guys migrated into appreciating the levels of vast knowledge and in the direction that you have for both of you. I honestly see you guys being Ph.D.s and whatever you guys do. So it’s only one step away from being Ph.D.s I will say that strength coaches are different kinds of characters, huh? They’re just different, man. They just there’s no joke. There’s serious. This is life-threatening. And when you’re under that bar, they want to take care of you. So they’re the most compassionate people. And they’re the most serious of all people. And as you said in the gym, basically everyone seeks out, both of you guys, for the greater order. That is what you guys do. You guys have great knowledge. And I’ve been a big proponent of great order rules. So you guys have been pulled in through whatever the sources are to bring you to create great order for these young kids and young men so that they can perform the best that they can in the world that they have to go into. So I got to tell you. Thank you, guys. Thank you. I know that this information was something that correlates to children. I could open up each one of those conversations and open it up for another hour each. So, Taylor, I got to tell you. Thank you so much for bringing us some knowledge. And I look forward to talking to you guys some more in the future and bringing you in and breaking it up into a different. Because we talked about the leg. We talked about the knees. We talked about nutrition. Each one of these are directions that we can spend hours talking about. And it’s out there. And just to let you know, my goal is to bring it out so that the parents can also see what’s important. I think all we got here is good nutrition, good body mechanics, range of motion, dynamic transfer of power, and also the progression from even young that, you know, you can’t be accused of abusing your children when you put them under a weight machine. If you have the understanding is the proper mechanics and the right age and the right dynamics of it. So nutrition plays a huge role. I always knew that the core held the secret. Now, I’m not the smartest guy in the world, but when God put the baby, he put it where? He put it in the core. OK. So when you look at it, the Orientals called it the Chi, the center of the power right in kung fu. Watch the hips. Watch the hips where you can see where the guy’s going because of the center of the order rules in sports in translating. And when your life depends on it, your core, it has to be one of the most important components as to where you translate force and reaction time comes from there. As a matter of fact, it’s the basis of what the body dynamics are. The pelvis, the hips, the range of motion, and the knees. Those are the sciences that these young individuals have brought in the nutrition of it. Because when it comes down to circulation, you know, what’s in the circulation, the food, the stuff that you put in that hole in your face and the rest and the sleep and the water and hydration. What I’m very pleased about is that I’m a lot older and I appreciate the level of youth and youngness in them, so to speak, that is going to be changing the world for the future individuals and families around El Paso and in the regions that this kind of can reach. So thank you, guys. I appreciate your information. And I’m a fan of both of you guys, by the way, OK, because you guys are an amazing talent that I got to tell you, I do have a window. Before you were here in the 1990s where there was a different world, El Paso is different. And Sylvester Reyes, by the way, that’s the senator that I wanted to call out, it was his dream to make that military force out here and make it as big as it was. It’s got a long history. But in that impact of those big centers, those training centers was this dream. So I got to tell you for that, Senator, I don’t know if he anticipated you guys come in, but he did create the great order so that you guys would come and share your knowledge. So I wish you the best and thank you guys for everything you guys have offered. And I look forward to hearing from you best. And thank you, Kenna. Thank you for everything.
PODCAST: Dr. Alex Jimenez, a chiropractor in El Paso, and Kenna Vaughn, a health coach in El Paso, TX, introduce Taylor Lyle, a sports dietitian in El Paso, TX, to discuss the importance of nutrition and diet for young athletes and professional athletes. Taylor Lyle discusses her experience in sports nutrition as she describes how it is that she chose to become a sports dietitian. With her tremendous knowledge in nutrition and diet, Taylor Lyle now has a new goal of helping athletes in El Paso, Texas improve their overall health and wellness as well as enhance their performance. Taylor Lyle is also willing to help anyone who wants to achieve overall health and wellness. Dr. Alex Jimenez, Kenna Vaughn, and Taylor Lyle conclude the podcast by discussing their future plans towards helping athletes understand the importance of nutrition and diet. – Podcast Insight
[00:00:00] OK. So today we’re going to be presenting an amazing young lady who has hit the El Paso Times. Taylor Lyle. She comes from a lot of different places. And we’re gonna be discovering exactly how she has contributed to our El Paso community. And she’s an amazing addition because El Paso is a town that needs a lot of different talents. And a lot of us sometimes don’t know what the talent is. [00:00:38][26.5]
[00:00:39] And as you can see, I’m way over here on the picture. We’re running in our COVID era. COVID era. Yeah, no, let’s go ahead and show them the whole studio a little bit. And during this COVID era, we function with distancing and we have complexities. But today, we’ve tested everybody out here that we are unfazed at this time. So we’re going to be making sure that we talk about issues that are pertaining to wellness and fitness. And Taylor Lyle comes with a lot of great experience. Taylor, hi. How are you? And we’re gonna introduce her. Taylor, tell us about yourself. Because we’re excited to see you. We got to meet you in the process of looking up at the highly talented individuals in El Paso. And you are one of the ones that came in as one of the health coaches, fitness trainers. Tell us about who is Taylor Lyle? Tell us about what’s the beginning? What started your story? [00:01:34][55.0]
[00:01:35] Yeah, well thanks. I started as an athlete growing up. I played competitive soccer, basketball, and volleyball. And through my own experience, I, you know, found out how nutrition impacted my performance and my overall health. So, you know, as an athlete on the go here looking for quick choices. So a lot of times it ends up being fast-food restaurants. And with that, you know, it really just didn’t sit well with me before competition or after. So I had packed my own things in advance. Saw how that really impacted not just my energy, but performance and just, you know, my physique as well. So that’s really where I got started in sports nutrition. And then I continued on. I went to the University of Oklahoma and I got my bachelor’s degrees in nutritional sciences. When I was there, I got to volunteer as a sports nutrition student. And so with that, it just reaffirmed, you know, my decision to take this career path. So I have over seven years of experience in sports nutrition and a variety of sports. And I’m a certified specialist in sports dietetics. And so with that, I have a variety of backgrounds with collegiate high school and professional athletes as well as in the military setting. [00:02:55][80.7]
[00:02:56] So that’s an amazing story. One of the things that we see here is that when we look at this resume that you have here, what we’re seeing is that you’re highly, highly, highly brought in by a lot of different talented individuals. They kind of saw you from a distance. How did El Paso end up finding you, tell us a story about that? [00:03:15][19.1]
[00:03:16] Well, I got sought out by a recruiter to work with the Army. And so with that, it just it really was the timing was right. I was ready to relocate back to Texas. That’s where I’m from. I was in West Virginia at the time, helped create their football program. [00:03:34][17.3]
[00:03:34] Football? Can you help UTEP? Can you help the UTEP miners? [00:03:41][6.8]
[00:03:42] You know if they wanted me to I’d be more than happy to assist them with their nutritional needs. But yeah, I have a strong background. I have experience with that. Oklahoma, Clemson, Oregon football as well. [00:03:53][11.8]
[00:03:54] No way. [00:03:58][4.1]
[00:03:58] They’re the Tigers. Okay. [00:04:05]
[00:04:09] And then I had the opportunity to spend two seasons with the Dallas Cowboys and then obviously West Virginia after that. [00:04:15][6.4]
[00:04:16] Yeah. You spent some time with the Dallas Cowboys. Tell us about that a little bit. Yeah, it was really great. [00:04:19][3.8]
[00:04:21] You know, professional athletes, they’re a little bit more in tune with their body. You know, they’re just competing at a very high level. And so it was really great. I loved everyone that I worked with and I just really learned a lot. I got to do a lot more testing. We looked at, you know, muscle glycogen. We got to do all sorts of body composition tests. [00:04:42][21.4]
[00:04:42] These guys have the endless funds. Yeah, they really do. [00:04:45][2.6]
[00:04:45] And just, you know, the nutritional you know, whether it was supplements or just different foods we could use, we really just, we’re really fortunate with the resources we had. [00:04:57][11.3]
[00:04:57] So we’re gonna be talking about mindset and all that kind of good stuff. So don’t let me forget, Kenna, about mindset. Well, one of the things that we’re looking at here that we want to discuss is how that talent can translate to the people here in El Paso. There’s a lot of fitness, a lot of mental positioning, and a lot of dieticians. Were you able to work with different types of providers with Dallas? [00:05:18][21.5]
[00:05:19] Yeah, and honestly, really, in a lot of my experiences, I mean, you work with drinking, conditioning, coaches, athletic trainers, doctors, sports medicine, sports psychologists, play a huge role. Also, family. Sports psychologists. [00:05:32][12.8]
[00:05:33] OK. [00:05:33][0.0]
[00:05:34] Yeah. So they were, you know, implemental pads for the athletes. And then you have all sorts of support, whether that, you know, in college is academics, life after sports. And, you know, just different things, how to survive out in the community. And then, you know, professional, they have to also participate in community service. And so they just really have a lot of basically everything. [00:05:59][25.4]
[00:06:00] The athletes have to participate in community service? Okay, great. Did you work with any of the doctors out there? Because from my point of view, when I look at an athlete and when I look at our athletes here, because we have a lot of great athletes in El Paso, I mean, a talent that just comes and goes. One of the things that happen is no one really pays attention to the nutrition people until they’re hurt. And that’s true. That’s what happens when oh, now that you know, because now I’m making ten million dollars a year. Right. As a football player and my ACL just snapped. Right. So I know that part of it’s going to be the surgeon. OK. And part of it’s going to be the rehab. But the most important thing there is the dietitian. OK. So as the person that works with the dietary changes, tell me a little bit about how you were able to assist. You know, athletes return back to to get their dreams back. [00:06:48][48.7]
[00:06:49] Right. So there’s a lot of different modalities. I mean, obviously, it depends on the injury. But, you know, most importantly, you want to make sure that they’re consuming enough calories. And then from there, you know, they’re getting adequate macronutrients. So you look at, you know, carbohydrates, depending on the…it’s generally lower. Right, because you have decreased physical activity level. Right. They’re not as mobile. And then, you know, protein. You need that for tissue and repair and sorry. And so with that, it’s, you know, you need adequate protein. Higher, higher needs generally. And then, in fact, you need that for reducing inflammation just for your body to function properly, your organs, tissues. So with that, you know, you want to make sure they have good fats high in monounsaturated and omega-3 fatty acids. So those are going to be things like fatty fish, like salmon and tuna. [00:07:45][56.4]
[00:07:46] You know, different oils, olive to canola oil, peanut oil, nuts and seeds, avocado. [00:07:54][7.8]
[00:07:55] So, you know, just your good, healthy fats. Those are all going to accelerate injury. And so also too you look at different micronutrients. So, you know, with when you have a stress fracture or bone injury, you’re going to be looking for your calcium and vitamin D. Those are important for bone health and formation. And as well as the immune system. So and then you’re also going to look at, you know, you hear a lot about vitamin C with immune function. But it’s actually important for tissue repair, wound healing, and collagen production. So actually, collagen is also a form of gelatin. So it’s a major protein found in, you know, your connective tissues. Yes. Thank you. This is how you know, that includes things like your bones, ligaments, tendons, skin. And so. So as you increase that production and make your tendons and ligaments stronger. So that is something that you can use even in injury prevention. [00:08:57][62.3]
[00:08:58] We’re going to talk about that a little bit right now. Kenna tell me a little bit about what you were, we’ve been focusing a lot about inflammation, huh? Tell us about what is it, what, our main topic here is inflammation. It seems to be part of everything, whether it’s working out or anything. Kenna, what have we been doing with that? What is one of the most important things with inflammation that you have learned? [00:09:18][19.8]
[00:09:19] We learned that it all stems from the gut. And which brings us back to why Taylor is such a great guest to have today and talking about, you know, dietary needs and everything that you need. And she is talking about supplements, which are great. And it’s not just supplements we need, though. We sometimes, our body does better when we get that food, the nutrients from the real foods, like she was mentioning the avocados and the salmon because you can break it down differently. But all in all, the end goal is always to reduce inflammation, you know, heal the gut. We don’t want anything in there to get through the permeability. We want our gut to be solid so that our nutrition can be solid so that our muscles can be solid and just everything is all connected and everything leads down to like we just said. So Taylor, we now know that you’re surrounded by people that love inflammation. [00:10:09][50.7]
[00:10:11] So let’s assume you got an athlete out there and this dude needs to run. He’s 440. You know, he’s got to be a big lineman. He’s got to run at 440. He’s gotta be a fast guy or a tight end or something. And they’re just having joint pain. And they constantly have issues besides the external things like ice and the anti-inflammatories and all the kind of things that you do. How do we change their diet? What kind of things that I know you mentioned some foods there I want you to go a little deeper into that so we can help people. [00:10:38][27.1]
[00:10:39] Yes. It’s just kind of like injury. It’s similar. You look at the macronutrients I mentioned protein, fat and carbs. And then just overall energy. But for joint pain, you know, there’s fish oil that also stems from healthy fats. [00:10:53][14.7]
[00:10:54] Are you talking more like the omega oils? [00:10:56][2.5]
[00:10:57] Yes. OK. So the omega-3, which includes DHEA and EPA. And so with that…is there any ratios that you guys like a little bit better? [00:11:06][8.9]
[00:11:06] Or is it something that’s different. [00:11:07][1.0]
[00:11:10] Two to one. Three to one. What do you like? Generally it’s. [00:11:14][4.0]
[00:11:17] I want to say two to one, that’s it, so that’s one I’ve heard that two to one is the one we’ve seen the most like. Yeah. Five hundred milligrams to 1000 back and forth. [00:11:25][7.7]
[00:11:25] Yeah. That’s generally where the most research is in. [00:11:27][1.8]
[00:11:28] Yes. Yes. And so that can help with joint pain. [00:11:30][2.4]
[00:11:31] Reduce inflammation. Enhances brain function. And then you might have heard things like turmeric. Yes. So those actually are some spices that can help with inflammation. [00:11:46][15.1]
[00:11:47] Do you give that too? Would you offer that to the athletes? [00:11:49][2.0]
[00:11:49] I would say try adding that in your food first with the spices. There are definitely supplements available for that as well. We know with supplements. It’s just kind of tricky. You want to make sure that it’s safe to use and consume. And so with that, you know that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, they really don’t regulate those until, you know, something big goes on. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. So with that, you just give guidance generally as a sports dietician, recommend third-party certification. So that’s going to be things, logo’s that you would see on supplements to have a certified for sport. Informed choice for sport. Banned substance control group. So those are going to be more of your, you know, elite certification, particularly with inflammation. [00:12:41][51.5]
[00:12:42] One of the things that we’ve seen is that in an inflammatory issue such as a joint issue, one of these I’ve noticed is that omegas, curcumin, vitamin D, you know, all the way down to vitamin A, C, and E, the anti-inflammatories, the antioxidants. Right. Those are really, really cool, particularly when it comes to omegas, sometimes you don’t know which place to stop. You know, sometimes you can tell, like for a vitamin C, as high as you dose up, you can usually tell when you’ve just crossed over the line because it does kind of end up giving you a little bit of diarrhea. So you’ve gone too far. So it could be 1000 for some people. Sometimes you can dose up to three in certain individuals, but you want that at a high level so that it helps with the proteins, the omegas. If you go too far on those, sometimes you’ll be laughing and you’ll be bleeding on the nose. Right. [00:13:29][47.0]
[00:13:29] So you’ve gone too far because. Yeah. Yeah. [00:13:34][4.7]
[00:13:34] So when we do that, we try to figure out ways to limit our ability overpass. And that’s where someone like yourself would be very important to be able to come up with a diet. I’m a big believer. [00:13:44][10.2]
[00:13:45] I’ve always believed that fitness is probably about 10 percent. You know, 90 percent of the athlete comes from feeding those genes, which is nutrition. And that’s the whole thing then. And the genetic design and the sports genes. So what I look at is that when you look at some of these athletes, I know I touched on it, but would you work with the orthopedist? Would they come to you and say, hey, you know what, this guy, he’s got to be back in six weeks because that’s the same thing that happens here in El Paso. We got athletes that are national champions. We got the Division one, Division two, Division three. It’s really important to get these kids when they get hurt to nutritionally be backed up with the right foods. So in the event of someone with, let’s say, a shoulder injury or knee injury, how would the orthopedist look for the Dallas Cowboys? Because you did mention that you worked with them. Would they want your help? [00:14:39][54.6]
[00:14:40] Yeah. So, I mean, there are several different disciplines involved, but nutrition does play a huge role. And so that’s conversations you would have with sports medicine, whether that’s the athletic trainer who spoke to the doc, you know, because they have a busy schedule or if it’s the physician talking directly to you. So the pain on the injury would obviously change your nutritional approach. [00:15:03][22.8]
[00:15:06] And one of the things that I remember doing is that each sport has different types of nutrition. Right. So a lot of people don’t know that. People think that you can feed the volleyball player the same thing or the football player. It’s not the same. No, no one size fits all. No, no. So this end equals one component. I remember that one of the Dallas Cowboys orthopedic surgeons is Daniel Cooper. [00:15:27][21.2]
[00:15:28] Then Cooper at the Carol Clinic is one of the top reconstruction of knees and has been able to work with a lot of people from Oklahoma’s med effect. Many of the Oklahoma wrestlers. Go to Daniel Cooper. And one of the things is he does his job. And I got to tell you, the guy will do a reconstruction of a knee in 20 minutes. And he’s done, he walks on, says, I’m done by now. You get the best knee job. But then that’s when you come in. You come in with a nutritionist and as well as the coaches for the rehab, the therapist. And that’s all about nutrition. Talk to me, wrap yourself around, let’s say, just like someone with a knee injury. And let’s talk about taking them back into recovery from the beginning, from the time that says, you know what? We got the physical therapies. He did his thing, but we want to feed this guy the right way. How do you do that? Go ahead. [00:16:12][44.1]
[00:16:14] Yeah, so look at the overall diet. You know what, assess nutritional needs. Calculate what they would need and then factor in the macronutrients as I said earlier. And you know what? [00:16:27][13.1]
[00:16:27] Macronutrients, how you can tell me a bit about macronutrients. So we can tell El Paso. So we got moms out there right now. Moms are the hardest people to deal with. Right. Because I’ve got to tell you, you know, little Bobby, he’s an athlete. He’s seven years old. He’s 12 years old. He’s 13 years old. He’s gonna be a national champion. Mom’s in the kitchen. Wants to know what to give their kids who are hurt in a similar fashion. What are macronutrients on? And we want to go there. [00:16:51][24.7]
[00:16:52] Yeah. So carbohydrates are your primary energy source that’s a macronutrient as well as protein and fat. And so you really want to focus on protein because you’re trying to regenerate, rebuild that muscle tissue. Right. And you want to grow. So it’s a protein that needs to be a focus as well as fat because that’s going to help reduce inflammation, help the healing of the tissue as well. And so those are the two primary ones that you want to look at. And then carbohydrates, you definitely still need even just for brain function. Right. And so you just don’t need as much when you’re injured because you’re not moving as much. So those are the macronutrients you want to look at. And then when you have that confirmed, you want to start looking into micronutrients. So if it’s just a tissue injury instead of bone, you know, you’re going to want to look at more of like zinc. Right. So you’re gonna need that. Well, that’s a micronutrient that you’re going to need for tissue repair regeneration. It also helps with immune system function. And so vitamin A also is one that helps with tissue repair and regeneration as well. Once you have an injury, it helps reverse the immune system suppression. So those are going to be what you look at as well as vitamin C. So vitamin C plays a role and when telling tissue repair immune system, boosting the immune system. So those are going to be ones that you’ll want to pay closer attention to. [00:18:26][94.4]
[00:18:27] And I’ve heard a lot about collagen and I use it here. But what is the perspective that they do at a collegiate level or at that, let’s say a National Football League level? [00:18:38][10.7]
[00:18:38] Yes. So we actually would make gelatins. So your store-bought gelatin and. Yeah. And we would add that with vitamin C, whether you want to have a cup of orange juice or you actually want to put a supplement on vitamin C powder and the gelatin. And so vitamin C helps enhance collagen production. So you want those two together, gelatin and vitamin C to help with collagen. And so what that does is it’s going to strengthen that tendon and ligament, making it stronger, making it less prone to an injury. [00:19:17][38.5]
[00:19:18] I got to tell you that that’s great knowledge. And I love hearing about this stuff because a lot of these people, we read weekly, we kind of go in there and we read about, you know, gelatin or cartilage or what does that mean? [00:19:31][13.4]
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[00:20:33] And that’s where their emotional stage burns the stress level. Yeah. You mentioned something that was very important to me, and I feel that a lot of people don’t know about this is the psychological component of an athlete and the dietary issues. What are the ways that you kind of help your athletes and the people that you work with handle their lives in terms of an injury and/or try to make them better with nutrition and psychology? [00:20:55][22.1]
[00:20:56] Yes. So psychology, I really do refer that out to the experts. But with nutrition, you know, I just helped manage a lot of time. I mean, eating is such a big part of your day today. Hopefully, you’re eating most of the day. Yeah, not all day. So. I mean, you know, just having a good relationship with food and making sure that, you know, people are enjoying food and you know that they don’t have any negative relationship with that, that obviously ties into psychological as well. But, yeah, I do refer them to the expert. But, you know, there’s a lot of things that can influence not just, you know, an injury or whether it’s weight or anything like that body composition. But, you know, you have to look at other factors. So the stress, right. Psychological sleep. You know. Is there any environmental factor? Socio-economic? You know, there’s just so many things that can impact an athlete, you know, just even beyond nutrition. So it’s really interesting when you do come together because everyone plays their part. You know, to the holistic approach of improving performance and overall health. [00:22:08][71.4]
[00:22:08] You know, you mentioned something there and it was the sleep, the recovery time, the ability for someone to…� [00:22:15][7.1]
[00:22:16] I mean, without getting too theological. You know, the designer intended for us to have sleep, but we were reversed if pressed if we’re having anxiousness, if we have a rise in cortisol, abnormal flux between, you know, the cortisol and the melatonin in the brain, you don’t rest and you don’t repair. So how do we talk to them? How do you as a nutrition expert. Talk to them about how important sleep is? [00:22:47][30.9]
[00:22:48] Yeah. So I talk about sleep hygiene, you know, have conversations with, you know, what is that, sleep hygiene. [00:22:53][4.9]
[00:22:53] That sounds interesting. He has sleep hygiene. [00:22:55][1.5]
[00:22:55] It’s kind of like getting your bedtime routine. Right. So, you know, making sure that you yourself have good hygiene, that your sheets are clean. Those have hygiene. And, you know, the research shows having a cold room, generally 68 degrees Fahrenheit, a dark room, eliminating noise. [00:23:13][17.5]
[00:23:13] Oh, I’m starting to love everything that we really love. Okay. So way… [00:23:19][5.5]
[00:23:19] You got a lot of subjects there. Okay. So first of all, sleep hygiene. So no bugs in the bed and clean sheets. [00:23:24][4.7]
[00:23:24] Right. Exactly, talk to me about that. But so clean sheets have been determined to be so important, huh? [00:23:38][13.8]
[00:23:38] Yeah, it’s just good hygiene really does promote better sleep quality versus, I guess, going to bed dirty. Yes. Yes. So that shows, you know, that that’s important. And then, you know, you also look at blue light emission. Right. [00:23:56][17.9]
[00:23:57] So from your TV, your phone, tablet, whatever it is, you know, really trying to set a timer for yourself to put that down at a certain point before better getting the cool orange glasses that. [00:24:11][14.4]
[00:24:12] Yes, yes, yes, yes. [00:24:13][0.9]
[00:24:14] They can, you know, help the blue light go away. And so it says there’s some, you know, routines you can do and infer nutrition. You know you want to avoid processed foods. Higher fat foods would have height, saturated fat, trans fat. So those are going to be, you know, your fried foods, your baked goods. [00:24:34][20.0]
[00:24:35] You know. As you mentioned that you were talking about processed foods. Kenna, you’re right. You have a neat way of figuring out where processed foods are in the store. What is that way? [00:24:42][7.0]
[00:24:43] Oh, yes. To just when you’re grocery shopping. Shop along the edges of the store. Don’t go into the aisles, because as soon as you start going into aisles is when you start getting into all the processed foods, all of the added ingredients that aren’t necessarily good for you. So if you’re just trying to stay on the outside, that’s where you’re going to get most of your produce and your meats and everything you need just right on the outside. Don’t go in. [00:25:10][26.8]
[00:25:10] Don’t go in. Well, I’ll tell you what. You know, I, I realize that we have to go in there and we have to go into that area of the inner aisles. But the more organic, the more we can control our budget on the outside room and minimize the internal areas, specifically those areas where things are in bags. Those are the areas that are processed food. And we got to avoid those specifically if we’re trying to recover from an injury. Moms? Look, I know you’re the craziest of all people. You know, when we want our kids, we want our kids to be good. Little Bobby Little, you know, little Lincoln and Lincoln gets throttled in and Lincoln is young, the little boy who’s got a lot of energy. And if he gets thumped on the field. Right. What’s mom going to do? Oh, happy Lincoln. No, no. She’s gonna get on his own. [00:25:52][41.8]
[00:25:53] Well, I’ve seen most moms get all over their kids, but what they can do is they can give them proper nutrition and that’s an important part. And sleep hygiene is so important. And I don’t want to leave that subject because this is so cool. The sleeping process. And you were mentioning something about specifically about the sheets being clean. [00:26:11][18.7]
[00:26:13] … [00:26:38][25.4]
[00:26:39] Yes. So you want to get, you know, eight hours of sleep, if you can, some ages require more. So when you’re younger, you actually need closer to probably nine to ten as a child. And then as an adult, you know, you can have you don’t need as much because you’re not growing and developing. So but you still want to aim for eight, if not more. And then. And research has come out that if you have the luxury of taking a 30-minute nap during the day, and that also contributes to the overall quantity of your sleep. [00:27:09][29.3]
[00:27:09] … [00:27:49][39.2]
[00:27:49] Yes, a growth hormone is released when you’re sleeping. So when you get optimal hours of sleep, it allows that to fully develop and be produced properly. So. [00:28:01][11.5]
[00:28:02] So it worked for me the same way. Grow good. [00:28:12][9.7]
[00:28:14] Yes. So a growth hormone is been known to spill out of the bloodstream by the pineal gland. And at a certain time of night, a few hours in your sleep and man, that’s still it’s magical. It makes you grow. I mean, it really makes you grow. [00:28:28][13.4]
[00:28:28] And ain’t going to happen if you don’t get enough sleep. So as an athlete, it’s one of those things that nature has provided for us that provides a magical ability for just a natural way of healing. And so it’s important. So what else do we do for athletes in terms of recovery processes, in terms of assessing not only their sleep hygiene? [00:28:53][24.2]
[00:28:53] Okay. [00:28:53][0.0]
[00:28:54] You know, you really have to look at nutrient timing, too. So what is an athlete having to eat or drink right after a workout? And that plays a really important process and jumpstarting that recovery. So depending on the intensity and duration of the exercise, when it’s more moderate to high intensity, going to want to make sure that you have enough carbohydrate and protein because you would have used those energy stores up and depleted those in your muscles when you work out. So carbohydrate and protein allow you to refuel and, you know, regenerate those energy stores as well as the muscle. And so normally you have one a three to one ratio of carbohydrate to protein. So that would mean, you know, 60 grams of carbohydrate to 20 grams of protein. So if you have a nice tall glass of chocolate milk, you know, two cups about that. That should be adequate to refill and replenish those needs. [00:29:53][59.3]
[00:29:54] Chocolate milk. OK. Now you pick chocolate milk. Now, most people think it’s a bad thing. But tell me why it’s such a good thing. [00:29:59][5.5]
[00:30:00] Yeah. So it’s full of the macronutrients we talked about earlier. So it has good healthy fats so it’s natural. And then it also has an electrolyte. So electrolytes are used primarily you lose sodium through sweating. And so those are things you’re going to also need to replenish to make sure that you have optimal hydration after working now as well. And then there’s normally it’s fortified with different vitamins and minerals. So you hear a lot with bone health and drinking milk. Yes, it does have calcium and vitamin D, and a lot of times it has, you know, some other vitamins like vitamin A as well. So it’s just really you get everything in one you know, one beverage, which is awesome. [00:30:43][43.3]
[00:30:44] You had mentioned earlier something about calculating what each athlete needs. Do you have a certain formula that you use for that? Or how does A vary per athlete? Because even if they’re in the same sport, you know, they could be different positions and they that could vary what they need, right? [00:31:31][19.3]
[00:31:32] So you know, there’s one for females and for males. And from there that would give you just, you know, your energy needs, which takes into account age, height and weight. And so from there, you look at, you know, how active is this individual once I have their basic needs to just exist. Well, you don’t just exist. You move around, right. It takes energy to just get out of bed, brush your teeth, and then you start actually having physical activity exercising in there. The needs go up. Right. So with that, you know, you have a physical activity level. But also, you know, it’s great now that you have all these G.P.S. data. So whether it’s like a Fitbit, Garmin, even Apple health, if you have an iPhone, it tracks, you know, your steps or the distance you’ve gone. And so all that to calculate your calories burned, which has to be factored in and to the overall equation. Right. To properly assess needs. So then when you get to sports specific, you can you have all that data to determine what that person needs. But then you also have to look at your macronutrient needs are going to be different for sports. So, you know, a marathon runner, they’re going to need a lot higher carbohydrate intake versus your linemen football player. So those could take into account as well as protein and fat generally stay the same no matter what the sport is, just because, you know, you need a certain fat percentage just for, you know, essential fat storage in terms of each individual. [00:33:10][98.1]
[00:33:12] And I’m thinking like, oh, I’m thinking in football. I’m looking at a linebacker who is the metamorphic, really unbelievable athlete. Usually is against the fullback. [00:33:24][11.8]
[00:33:24] And then you have your center who looks a little different than the outside tackles. Right. [00:33:31][6.5]
[00:33:31] So the weight that we typically do this is through a BMI test in the NBA is basically the metabolic systems or bioimpedance assessments. Do you use those in the military to assess and to help the athletes with an awareness as to how much muscle, how much bone density, all that kind of stuff? Yeah. [00:33:51][19.9]
[00:33:51] So you mentioned BMI and that is used in the military as well as clinical settings to determine if individuals are healthier, unhealthy. But it actually is not the best way to determine that. Right. It doesn’t take into account gender. It doesn’t take into account age and or, you know, your body type body composition. So you mentioned biological analysis. That would be body composition. So body composition takes a look at that mass. You’re fat-free mass, which is also referred to as lean mass. And then you get a body fat percentage, which a lot of athletes tend to care about. Is their body fat? [00:34:27][35.9]
[00:34:28] Yeah, I do. Not at my age. [00:34:30][2.3]
[00:34:30] I do think there’s a lot of different methods and tools you can do to assess that. And that is really a better indicator for if an individual’s healthy or unhealthy. And in general, guidelines for a body fat percentage are different for males versus females. So, you know, a male, you really don’t want anything over 21 percent body fat female would be anything over 31 percent body fat that would be deemed unhealthy, more overweight or obese category. So anything under that, you know, is good, optimal. And then, you know, you have even lower end ranges. It’s typically you’re pretty athletic population so that there are different standards. And with the military, we have what’s called the bod pod, which measures air displacement, urge it measured by composition through air displacement, sorry. [00:35:23][52.5]
[00:35:24] And that when they get inside of. Yes. [00:35:26][2.7]
[00:36:06] So that is a method we could use. And it’s just a quick test. [00:36:11][4.1]
[00:36:11] It’s not invasive. So we’re not. Pinching your skin, you’re just getting into this pod. And then, you know, it measures through the air. It measures what your fat mass is, your lean mass, and then you get a body fat percentage and then the biological analysis. A common brand, you know, is InBody. And what you use, basically, you’re holding. I don’t know. [00:36:38][27.3]
[00:36:39] At a point. Impedance assessor. [00:36:41][2.0]
[00:36:42] Yeah. So it’s kind of like electrodes that get the electrical signal through. Yes. Yes. Nerves. Yeah. Yes. And so from that, it’s able to calculate your body composition as well. And it’s pretty quick. [00:36:54][11.8]
[00:36:54] It’s a lot more accessible and a, you know, a lower cost than a bod pod would be. So we do have that available as well. And then, you know, if you have a lot of resources, as some of the professional teams and collegiate programs, the DEXA is the gold standard for body composition. But, you know, it’s really not accessible. It’s pretty expensive. And the nice thing about that is you can just you know, it’s a minimal x-ray exposure, but you can wear loose-fitting clothing, as he talked to, worry too much about apparel. And then it’s just depending on that machine, it’s, you know, seven to twelve minutes scan. And then the cool thing about it, it doesn’t only just break down your body composition, but it looks at a bone mineral density so you can actually see how strong your bones are. And it’s a good tool to have that. If you have hopefully a scan prior to a stress fracture, you can actually take a scan post-stress fracture and see, you know, where your bone mineral density was prior to the injury and try to work back to that. [00:38:06][71.5]
[00:38:06] You know, the DEXA test has been the gold standard for osteoporosis at the hips. And it’s what we use all the time to determine if they’re improving with whatever they’re doing. If the numbers changed drastically in one or other direction, hopefully it’s so sensitive that we can actually see the better, I guess, the deterioration of the bone density. So, you know, doctors that do, let’s say, hip replacements, they do that because they want to know what they’re going to be working on and if this bone is going to be brittle or not. And it’s a great way of doing things. We have discussed the pod and the different types of things like in the InBody. And what we’ve come up with is that simplicity is probably the fastest. And by the DEXA the cost as well as the pod, the complications of finding a facility also. The U.S. military. But the embody seems to be a really great way of doing that. Euterpe has those and they use those for and their personal trainers and their fitness and physical therapist to do that. So it is a really good way. And maybe it’s not as accurate as a pod, but it comes within one percent. But here’s a cool thing. It’s consistently accurate. So in other words, even if it’s one percent difference, it stays that one percent difference. So you can see variations. So I’m glad that they do that. And then the U.S. military now on the models have improved, you know, over time too. [00:39:22][76.1]
[00:39:22] So they’re getting more and more accurate. [00:39:23][1.1]
[00:39:24] Yes. Yes. Yeah. Let me ask you, in terms of the military in terms of how you train the athletes, because you’re part of us now. You’re, we’ve got, you know, one of the things about El Paso is that once you live here about three to four years, you become part of the community and people start knowing about you. Tell me what you want them to know about you. OK. Because this whole podcast is about you. And we want them to know what kind of resources, how they connect. I’ve seen your website. It’s a beautiful website. It’s got really cool information there. And I do recommend it. It’s tayloredforperformance.com, where you can see her there and she’s actually doing some training with some athletes and. But tell us what they can look for in terms of you as an individual and why would someone seek you out and what kind of things do you like to work with? Are your like thing that you enjoy? [00:40:16][51.6]
[00:40:17] Yes. So my thing would be working with the athletes or just someone who is interested in… [00:40:22][5.2]
[00:40:22] Okay, moms, you hear that you want little Bobby to get stronger and Lincoln. Okay. Well, you know what? Okay. Go ahead. Continue. [00:40:27][5.1]
[00:40:28] And so, you know, I’m all about individualized personalized nutrition. So really tailored nutrition to improve your overall performance and health. So that is what you’re going to get from me, whether you seek me out on my Web site, you know, Instagram, whatever, you know that that is what I offer. So whether that is to improve, you know, your body composition, you have weight goals, maybe you want to lose weight, you want to gain weight, and you’re struggling to do that. You know, maybe you have some food allergies or food intolerances, different food sensitivities. I can help you through that. [00:41:07][39.3]
[00:41:08] What does that mean now that you touched on that subject? That cherry is not going to go by without me plucking it. OK. So food sensitivities, what does that mean? [00:41:15][7.5]
[00:41:15] Tell me, yeah. So, you know, you could have a big one is right, lactose intolerance. So you might not completely have a dairy allergy. Right. Or completely lactose intolerant. One hundred percent. You might be able to have different variations of dairy. It’s normally has to do with the portion size. So maybe you can only have a cup of milk instead of having milk throughout the day, you know, and it doesn’t bother your digestive system. You’re having a upset stomach. Anything like that, glutens another one. So celiacs disease, people that can’t have gluten products. So, you know, you might have sensitivity to gluten. [00:41:55][39.5]
[00:41:56] That’s been big on the news lately. Why is that? Why is gluten so in, like, crazy like all over the news? And what are the things that we can do? Because it appears that gluten just is horrible. And I want to put it in perspective for people from an athletic point of view. [00:42:11][15.1]
[00:42:12] Yes. So gluten, you know, if you don’t have a sensitivity to it, you really want to encourage having it, because that’s going to be your carbohydrates. It’s going to be your primary source of energy. Right. There are foods that are gluten-free that will still give you the carbohydrates that you need for performance so that those are things, you know, you really want to sit down and figure out exactly how sensitive you are to that, because for an athlete, you really need that to perform best as well as recover. [00:42:42][29.8]
[00:42:44] Taylor, if we have an individual who is gluten sensitive or food sensitive or different foods or different issues with different types of varieties, how is it that we can pinpoint that in your experience, that you’ve done the pinpoint, the actual thing that’s the culprit causing the food sensitivity? Because I a lot of people say I eat this and I just feel bloated. I feel sick. [00:43:04][19.8]
[00:43:05] I don’t feel my food. My brain is foggy after I eat the foods. What are the things that we can do to assess and kind of come up with a plan that is of a higher level than just say stop eating? [00:43:15][10.2]
[00:43:16] Yeah. So sometimes it’s really hard to pinpoint exactly what food it is that is causing the issues because generally you don’t just have one food group by itself. So if you’re having a meal, you’re not just going to have the pasta. Right. You’re going to have maybe a protein with that and maybe the sauce and different things. So it can be tricky. But a way to try to determine what it is causing those G.I. issues is you focus on the one food group. So you would try to have it by itself and then, okay, you see if you have any symptoms, maybe 30 minutes up to a few hours afterward. And then if you don’t have any symptoms, then you move on to the next food group and that’s how you can assess or pinpoint. [00:44:01][44.8]
[00:44:02] So let’s say it’s albumin like an egg. You would be able to track it down. If you stop eating the food and you start, you feel better, right? Yeah. That’s your. Gotcha. [00:44:09][6.8]
[00:44:10] Well, I got to tell you, there’s a lot of technology that I did not realize that’s out there specifically regarding food sensitivities. And we talk about it often. And it’s really great to see the role-play of interdisciplinary approaches that you have. You know, one of the things that are about an interdisciplinary over practice is you have dietitians, you have orthopedics, you have physical rehab people. You have people that can understand the deepest understandings of genetics because the tests are easily run. This is to find out the susceptibility that the homozygous, the heterozygous genes, the snips, what they call, you know, singular nucleic polymorphisms, is that what they call it? What the word is? Right. [00:44:48][38.4]
[00:44:49] SNPs are really allowed to further assess where the person’s predispositions are. It’s really cool that you’re here. So when you’re saying about that, you talk to people and then you work with people, do you do telemedicine as well? [00:45:04][15.4]
[00:45:05] Yes, I actually am right now. Just because of COVID-19 restrictions. But yes. [00:45:11][5.3]
[00:45:11] So I can do things virtually whether that’s over a Zoom call, a phone call, email. [00:45:18][7.0]
[00:45:19] What’s the phone number you can call so I can. Because I’m going to put it all over the place, what’s, what’s a good number that you like. [00:45:23][4.7]
[00:45:25] I’ll do it later then. OK. OK. So what. We’ll do that, you know, an email. Right. [00:45:30][4.2]
[00:45:30] You know, first of all, a lot of things that we’ve learned is that she works with a lot of your unique athletes, people on there, that sounds like a special force out there so that she’s really connected with the science of dealing with the most elite athlete. So her privacy is very important. So that makes sense. All right. Not that I don’t want people calling me that. Well, I’ll tell you what. You know what? It’s very important to see what you have. You know what? If I was watching this. There is no way that I would not find you. I would find you. You know, Taylor Lyle. And I would make sure I’d nail you and then you at that point, we would call you and say, you know, little Bobby, little Lincoln, little Alex. You know what? They need some help here. Because you know what? We’ve got a lot of people that want the best for their kids, and these athletes are just incredible. So you have that knowledge and the way to sit down and work with moms and dads, primarily moms, because moms don’t want little Lincolns to get thumped. I use Lincoln because it’s Kenna’s little boy and he’s a special little energy machine. So one of the things is, is that we want to do is figure out what we other what other ways do you communicate with your clientele? [00:46:36][66.3]
[00:47:09] OK, perfect. We can find you that way because I’ll be a follower and we’ll be following those ideas. It’s very important to stick together a little bit of background. El Paso has been a town where it’s been very segregated, but now it’s getting very well connected. And the talent that is coming from afar. You came from Oklahoma. From Dallas. Where else did you go? [00:47:29][19.7]
[00:47:30] South Carolina. West Virginia. Or again, I was in England at one point. [00:47:36][5.8]
[00:47:36] It sounds like a song you have really everywhere. You kind of have raked up knowledge. Yeah, I have. [00:47:43][6.1]
[00:47:43] And now you brought me here to El Paso, right? Yes. So, I mean, from England to Dallas Cowboys to the rooms to the furthest places you bring it to El Paso for us, we feel very privileged. I know. I speak for Canada too. But I can say that she’s very knowledgeable and we need people like this around El Paso. And I got to tell you, it did not exist 10 years ago. Not that not to this level. Maybe a little bit more 10 years ago, but 20 years ago when I first came to town. It was not existent, this kind of intense knowledge. What brought you to you? You were recruited just to go back a little bit on that. You were recruited. [00:48:20][36.6]
[00:48:33] I get to help create some of the policies and procedures and just how we operate as a department. So it’s me, straight couples training, conditioning coaches, athletic trainer, and physical therapists. So we operate as a performance team. So, yeah, it’s pretty cool. And so, you know, it’s was closer to home for me. I wanted to add my experience was in collegiate professional athletes, so I really wanted to tap into the military tactical athlete. And just, you know, really broad in my practice. So. [00:49:07][34.0]
[00:49:08] Well, the famous Taylor Lyles here. OK. And as she becomes the gold standard of fitness. Tell me where you’re headed. What kind of things are you headed for and what’s looking at what’s the future hold for you and the total experience of what you’ve done in the past. [00:49:23][14.4]
[00:49:24] Yes. So the future I’m actually, you know, set here for performance right now. As I said, I cater to elite athletes trying to take our nutrition and improve their performance and health. And I’m in the process of developing an app right now. So that’s really exciting for me. Hopefully, I can disclose more when it’s, you know, finish with development. You know, it’s like the first time next year. So that’s what I have going on personally and then, you know, professionally with my full-time job. I think that, you know, I definitely get to stay in the military sector. Even tapping more special forces would be very, very exciting. [00:50:02][38.2]
[00:50:03] Can you talk about that? Can you talk about the experiences that you have in Special Forces? Because I’ve got to tell you, all these athletes, they will one day be adults. And the rustler’s, the high football players, the linebackers, those are the ones that go into special forces when they go the military. So how is it like to deal with them on the adult version of crazy athletes? [00:50:20][16.8]
[00:50:20] Intense athletes? Yes. So along with combat forces and professional athletes, it’s different. You know, you don’t just have you know, they typically have a family or they have other things going on in their life besides just themselves that they have to consider. So if a little bit more variation, more real-life experience, and application. Right. So it’s different, but it’s exciting. You can get a little bit more technical with them and, you know, they’re just more likely to do it sometimes. Although, you know, you have your younger athletes, too, that want to get better and want to look like whoever their idol is, that may be a professional athlete or, you know, so that they will do what it takes to get to that level of performance. And an athlete. [00:51:11][51.0]
[00:51:12] I know that a lot of the military members have to eat like emissaries and stuff like that when they’re in the field. Have you noticed a change in their performance or anything like that when they come back since those meals aren’t? I mean, I’m sure they’re not quite what. Yeah. Nutritional standards. They did the job, but. [00:51:32][19.5]
[00:51:32] … [00:52:04][2.0]
[00:52:04] Have you ever seen one that has a lot of different components? There’s, it depends on what you get. But a lot of times say it’s a pocket that’s already like powdered. Right. And he really you have to add the liquid and then they actually have this like heating pad. So you can heat up. But it’s still it’s you’re not having you’re having a lot of dehydrated foods that you’re heating up. [00:52:28][23.2]
[00:52:28] And that would be ended with Zentner Process Foods. Is it more processed? How is it? Yeah. How has that? I guess because the military is can take care of its people. [00:52:35][7.4]
[00:52:36] Right, with Embry’s. How have they balanced the or maybe it’s a question that no one knows because it seems like a top-secret. But the ability to make food, not with preservatives, but still good quality for these individuals in the sense of following the most holistic approach for their health. [00:52:54][18.1]
[00:52:55] ... [00:53:38][4.5]
[00:53:40] And sometimes they’ll have a little like a bar, protein bar or they’ll have like a, you know, bag of pretzels. So they get other things besides just that, you know, main entree option, too. [00:53:52][11.3]
[00:53:53] Yeah, well, I got to tell you, it’s been a joy. I can go on for like another two hours talking. And we’ve been in an hour, by the way. [00:53:59][6.8]
[00:54:01] Yeah. [00:54:01][0.0]
[00:54:02] It doesn’t seem that way. We’re having. Fine. I want to bring you back in and I know you have a lot of friends that are in the world of fitness. We love to hear what El Paso has to offer not only to present you guys and to showcase you as an individual primarily but also for the awareness of El Paso to see what kind of options are. It doesn’t matter that you may be in the military. [00:54:24][22.2]
[00:54:24] You offer a lot of knowledge and little moms and more moms with little Lincolns. [00:54:29][5.2]
[00:54:30] I use it as an example. They want the best for their kids and they’re not going to put up with little Lincoln and thumped. So one of the things is I want to give my child the best. I know that you mentioned things like chocolate milk, right? Yeah. To me, that’s good. But I’ve also noticed that people that like wrestlers that are that cut. And there, let’s say one hundred and thirty-eight and they got to go to 112. Right. Those guys at 112. They break. They break from doing that. And if they have the proper nutrition through the process, specifically the micronutrients and the macronutrients through the process, you’re going to send your kid through a hurricane and you’re a hurricane fighter. When those airplanes that go into the deep hurricane, you got to make sure the bolts are on that airplane really well. If the kid has poor nutrition and he goes into a battle, he’s going to snap and you’re going to see it in form of a broken ankle. You’re gonna see it in a snap shoulder, a clavicle dislocation. It’s going to come out that way because, you know, these nutritional insights are very good, like chocolate milk. My secret was from my kid. It was insured just because it was old for the old people, good enough for the old people. And the kids don’t want to you know, they want to carry chocolate milk on them, but they’ll puppet and sure. Between classes. But the point is micronutrition, macronutrition, and making sure that each child has the right stuff. So I really appreciate the fact that you brought this to our light because it’s information that I want to go over. So I really want you to come back and to come back and you’re gonna get to enjoy because we’re gonna make you, you know, gonna put you everywhere. [00:56:01][90.9]
[00:56:09] So we’re gonna put it everywhere so people can see it. And we’re very proud to have you because of this kind of experience that you really are international at this point, right? Because again, you’ve gone all over the place. Right. It sounds like a pitbull song. So it really is something special. And I really look forward to having you back with people so that we can discuss even more complex issues. Yeah, because I know you know a lot about BMI. The deep sciences. We have a lot of highly intelligent individuals here. We got UTEP, we got engineers everywhere. We got the people with thick glasses that will tell you about, you know, the macronutrients, micronutrients at the molecular level. So what we want to do is we want to bring that kind of knowledge here and showcase what practicality comes. Because it’s so good that it’s in a book. We need people to explain it to us. And I really appreciate you coming up and sharing that with us. Any other comments as to what you want to leave us with? [00:57:06][56.2]
[00:57:07] Just thanks so much for having me. It’s been really a pleasure just talking to you guys. And if there are any questions anyone has, please feel free to reach me at my Web site. That’s tayloredforperformance.com. And then again at my Instagram taylor_lyle. So thank you so much for your time. [00:57:27][20.3]
[00:57:27] Yes. We’re really appreciative of you. And go where we can see ourselves here. And we’re here in the little podcast. And though we’re experiencing a little bit of social distancing. [00:57:37][9.7]
[00:57:54] But anyway, thank you so much. And we definitely look forward to having you back as you’ve been a really great source of just being a fun conversation. Thank you so much. And we look forward to having it. [00:58:04][10.0]
PODCAST: Dr. Alex Jimenez, Kenna Vaughn, Lizette Ortiz, and Daniel “Danny” Alvarado discuss nutrition and fitness during these times. During quarantine, people have become more interested in improving their overall health and wellness by following a proper diet and participating in exercise. The panel of experts in the following podcast offers a variety of tips and tricks on how you can improve your well-being. Moreover, Lizette Ortiz and Danny Alvarado discuss how they’ve been helping their clients achieve their optimal well-being during these COVID times. From eating fruits, vegetables, lean meats, good fats, and complex carbohydrates to avoiding sugars and simple carbohydrates like white pasta and bread, following a proper diet and participating in exercise and physical activity is a great way to continue to promote your overall health and wellness. – Podcast Insight
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PODCAST: Dr. Alex Jimenez, Kenna Vaughn, Lizette Ortiz, and Daniel “Danny” Alvarado discuss nutrition and fitness during these times. During quarantine, people have become more interested in improving their overall health and wellness by following a proper diet and participating in exercise. The panel of experts in the following podcast offers a variety of tips and tricks on how you can improve your well-being. Moreover, Lizette Ortiz and Danny Alvarado discuss how they’ve been helping their clients achieve their optimal well-being during these COVID times. From eating fruits, vegetables, lean meats, good fats, and complex carbohydrates to avoiding sugars and simple carbohydrates like white pasta and bread, following a proper diet and participating in exercise and physical activity is a great way to continue to promote your overall health and wellness. – Podcast Insight
[00:00:00] You know, Lizette we have been working with patients for a long, long time. And I want to ask you a little bit about what got you into fitness. OK. So start from kind of the beginning of, like what got you into this, let the people know what it is that, who you are and what it’s about. What was the reason? Yeah. Your story. So it really makes it real easy for us to kind of get it going. [00:00:30][20.8]
[00:00:31] OK, I’ll try to make it short. [00:00:33][2.3]
[00:00:40] OK. So basically, I’m originally from Juarez. So I’m originally Mexican. And I grew up over there and I went all the way through high school. And then I moved to El Paso to go to UTEP and get a degree in psychology. So my whole life growing up, my mom’s been struggling with weight. She’s always struggled with weight because my mom’s family tends to be overweight. They even suffer from, like, you know, heart disease and other diseases that just come with it. And so I grew up with that. Like, my mom was always on a diet. She was always exercising. She always had exercise tapes. [00:01:18][37.5]
[00:01:18] So I guess it was ingrained in me to not be in that situation, but it still didn’t stop me from gaining a lot of weight. Did you get heavy? [00:01:27][9.1]
[00:01:29] Yes, of course. Of course. Because I didn’t have the tools, you know, I didn’t know any better. So I was eating like we all normally do, you know, like when you don’t know about things, just a lot of bread and sweets. Soda. I didn’t really drink water like water, water daily until I was sixteen. Yeah. My drinks were always Coca-Cola, it was the family drink. The family beverage and then maybe like Kool-Aid and things like that. Yes. And so I didn’t start drinking water until I had to be on treatment for a UTI or something. When I was 16, and that’s when I learned my first lesson was, OK, well, you’re on treatment so you can’t eat like acidic things. So I couldn’t even eat lime, but I couldn’t eat candies either, so I couldn’t eat sugar. I loved tamarind candies. I couldn’t eat that. I couldn’t eat sugar, no chocolate, no coffee, no cream. Like, they cut a lot of things. And I had to drink only water. Like the first time that I had to drink a glass of water. I thought I was going to throw up like that bad like that’s how bad it was. [00:02:35][66.5]
[00:02:36] And so then a month of this treatment, I lost like 15 pounds and I felt amazing. And this is I’m 16. I’m like, oh, my God, this feels great. I lost all this weight. Of course, that’s all I was focusing on at that point because that’s, I was 16. Right. So it’s like, oh, my God, I lost all this weight. I look great. [00:02:54][18.2]
[00:02:55] And so I started exercising more with the focus of being more fit. And so little by little that happened. So that happened the rest of my high school. Then I came to the U.S., I started college and I gained like 30 pounds. Right. Like you do like one does, right? Yeah. And then I didn’t really care. I did care. I did care. But I didn’t care. Like, I wasn’t doing anything about it. But it did depress me. And it caused me a lot of inner turmoil and anxiety and just depression and things, among other things. [00:03:25][29.7]
[00:03:26] And so I started exercising. I always kept active. [00:03:28][2.4]
[00:03:29] Is what’s interesting because I grew up with my mom, like having the videotapes and stuff. I always was on and off exercising. And so then I started doing more research. And that’s when I started kind of teaching myself, you know, like, look up, exercises, look up. But luckily, we already had the Internet and things. So I learned a lot about that. And I started doing my own workouts and I started watching what I ate. And I started like eating every three hours because supposedly that accelerated metabolism, which now we know is not the case. But I started doing that. So that actually shrunk my portions and I learned how that helps, too. Mm-hmm. And then I was going to move to L.A. because that’s what I always wanted to do when I went to go over there and pursue a career. [00:04:09][39.9]
[00:04:09] At what age did you go to L.A.? [00:04:10][0.9]
[00:04:11] When I graduated from college, I was. Twenty four. Yeah. Twenty four. So I was twenty-four when I moved and. But before I moved I was like, well I can’t go to L.A. to want to be an actress and have 30 extra pounds. Because when I see TV, that’s not, you know, you’re sold this image, this image of I need to look like this and this and this. And of course, I never filled out any of the requirements, but I still wanted to do it. And so I really focused on this. Not in a healthy way, though, you know, like I was really not eating well enough. I was probably exercising too much and not eating the right things because while I was losing weight, I wasn’t necessarily feeling any better. And so once I moved to L.A., I continued to work out and study and learn and then I studied nutrition. When I was over there in the university, not the university, the city college. And so that’s when I learned and that was my next big lesson was when I learned about nutrition, how like certain foods and the like, too much of this, too little of that, the wrong balance of things, the importance of vegetables and fruits, which I’ve always loved. But you see the difference between filling up on vegetables and fruits instead of filling up on pasta and bread. Yeah. And the repercussions that that has on your health, not only on the way that you look like we were mentioning earlier, right, not only in the way that you look but also the way that you feel and just learning that changed my life completely. I remember one day when we learned about additives in foods and dyes. We talked about Red 40 and like how, you know, like all these additives can have repercussions. You know, they build up in your system. Kids usually get hyperactive more because of the mix of dyes and additives than they do because of the sugar. Because if you eat like a lot of honey, you don’t get hyper necessarily. But if you eat a bunch of like Skittles, maybe because it has a bunch of other things in it. And so we learned about that. And like oh red 40 and then I get home and my husband had like this three-pound thing of red vines and I’m like, oh, red vines? [00:06:17][126.0]
[00:06:17] What are those? Those like Twizzlers? [00:06:19][2.3]
[00:06:20] Oh, no, no. Three pounds, literally three pounds. Yeah. Yeah. [00:06:25][5.2]
[00:06:26] Oh, we can’t eat that. Like, I just learned all this. And so every time I learned something about something, it’s like a new epiphany and a new item that I didn’t keep on my shelf anymore. And you know, I was like this fluffy white bread that’s delicious on sandwiches has zero nutrition for me. I need to get something that’s more whole grains, you know, like if I’m going to do a PB & J, I need to find my peanut butter. [00:06:50][24.5]
[00:06:50] That’s just peanuts and my bread. That is like sprouted grains and whole grains. And if I’m really going to stick to the bread, I at least need to do it right. And so that really, like, just that knowledge changed everything for me. And then I decided to… [00:07:05][14.4]
[00:07:08] Get certified as a personal trainer, because I kept being told by people at the gym that I should. As they would come, I was like on my training and I was like, oh, we should exercise together or whatever. And they would see how I would exercise and push myself. And they’re like, have you ever thought of being a trainer? And I was asked that so many times. I was like, no, no, I just. [00:07:27][19.8]
[00:07:28] You’re crazy like no. [00:07:30][1.5]
[00:07:31] Of course not. Like, I just had that, I was told that by several trainers over the course of maybe five years. And I was like, you know what, maybe I should, because then people would ask me, hey, how do you do this? How come you’re fit? How come you’re this, well, OK, all right, I’ll do it. [00:07:47][16.1]
[00:07:48] But I also wanted to live in Japan. That was another dream that I was waiting to fulfill while I was in L.A. I went in the meantime while because, as I said, I’m from Mexico, but to go teach English in Japan, I needed to be an American citizen and my mom’s American. But I was a resident. I had to wait until I had my citizenship to apply to go to Japan. So in the meantime, I went to L.A. and I did acting and modeling there. And then I was like, OK, but let me go to Japan first. But what if I don’t get in? So I got my certification before I left. I did get in. I went to Japan for two years. [00:08:17][29.7]
[00:08:18] I taught PE classes in Japanese high school and it was super fun. I was an English teacher. But, you know, they have you get involved with the students. And it was just really, really fun because I taught them, I did three different ones and one was just all cardio, like high-intensity interval training then the other one was just yoga. And then the other one was strength training. And so, like, I kicked their little butts, but, you know, like it was awesome. [00:08:42][23.5]
[00:08:42] And then the teachers were, how old were they? How old were the kids? [00:08:44][1.8]
[00:08:44] They were high school. [00:08:45][0.4]
[00:08:45] The last three years of high school, because they do years like in Mexico, where it’s like three middle school, three high school. So they were between 15 and 18. [00:08:52][7.0]
[00:08:53] Wow. Yeah. Yeah. No, that sounds familiar. How did you begin. How did you begin your fitness stuff. [00:08:57][4.4]
[00:08:58] Oh, my mom’s always been super active. We come from a super active family just because my mom has like crazy amounts of energy, she’s always like, yeah, she’s like, let’s go hiking, let’s do something. [00:09:11][12.3]
[00:09:11] Let’s do this. Like, we never just watched TV or did anything. [00:09:14][2.6]
[00:09:14] So I just grew up exercising. And in sports, it was just always a thing. So yeah, I just continued it and then in high school joined high school sports. And then once I got to college, I wasn’t in any sports. And I just felt weird. Like once you have been active for so long, you can’t just sit around. So I kept working out, kept doing that. And then, you know, I really loved watching your body change. It’s fascinating. It’s so. Yeah, it’s so. I just watch my own body change and not even that, like you said, how you feel. You’re like, oh, I have so much energy, I’m sleeping great, I’m doing better in school. Like, everything just starts to come together. So I just changed my major. I originally wanted to do physical therapy because I wanted to help people. But then I realized that I wanted to help them in more ways than just that. And so I switched it to exercise science where it’s more focused around nutritional aspects and things like that, where I could kind of do almost I felt a little bit more with it for where I wanted to go in life. So then I switched into that and then we ended up moving to El Paso. And now we’re here and I’m oh, we love it. And we’re still working out when I have a son. So he’s always busy, always playing, and we’re always looking up like what’s the youngest soccer league that they have, like something to get them interested. I also think if you give people tools early on, it also helps so much then they don’t have to have that same struggle that you had, because even though my mom was always active, she was still always like on a diet. She was wanting to look how TV looks. And it’s not always realistic for us, you know. [00:10:56][101.2]
[00:10:57] Right. So and she never really went about it the healthy way because she was uneducated. So she was just kind of, sorry… [00:11:04][7.4]
[00:11:05] Mom, she just didn’t know about it. [00:11:11][5.7]
[00:11:12] She doesn’t know about fitness and how carbs and everything actually work in your body. She just sees Pinterest and she’s like, oh, same as how you were talking about earlier. Well, this keto works for them, so I’m gonna do it. But if you don’t know what’s actually happening in your body, you don’t know the results because you’re not doing it correctly, you’re not following everything, there’s so much misinformation. So I love that you love to spread information and teach our clients like real-life skills that they’re going to use and implement. [00:11:44][32.6]
[00:11:44] Lizette what kind of other clients do you have? What kind of clients do you like to train? What’s your thing that you enjoy the most? [00:11:49][4.5]
[00:11:49] My thing. Look, you know what? I enjoy all kinds. And I really have had all kinds of clients. [00:11:55][6.0]
[00:11:56] I’ve had everything from people who used to be athletes in school who now aren’t like they’ve only been out from being athletes for like six months. So they’re still super fit and they want to keep training, you know, so I can really push them really hard for that. [00:12:08][12.9]
[00:12:10] So that’s really fun because I get to play with them and really push them and have them do crazy things that I’d come up with. It’s like, OK, now let’s jump over that box. And then you’re gonna pick up this weight and then you’re going to do a clean & press and then you gonna turn around. Are you’re going to do it again? OK. Because they can. Right. [00:12:26][16.5]
[00:12:27] But then also something that I love is the people that are looking for transformation. They’re like, you know what? Like, I just feel sluggish. I feel tired. I just don’t feel good. I’m starting to feel the pounds adding up and I just have aches and pains. It’s like, OK, let’s start. I love seeing them progress. I love seeing a person who can do 10 squats and be dying. And then by the end of the month, they’re hitting out the 20 and by the 20, they’re dying. But they look so much stronger. They feel great. They already told me, I feel stronger, I can sleep better, you know. And that’s just so I feel like my favorite is probably the transformation. [00:13:11][44.1]
[00:13:13] Like seeing their aha moments almost when they realize that they’re like, I’m here is when I’m doing this is what I’ve wanted. And yeah, like you said, that progress. That you first start seeing that it gives them, you even motivation to help them even more. And it’s great. It just…� [00:13:29][15.9]
[00:13:29] Keeps going. Exactly like when people are like struggling to do a push up on their knees. And then the first time you see them do five off their knees and they’re so proud of themselves. Yes. [00:13:39][9.6]
[00:13:39] You’re so proud of them. It’s like, yes. Over like, oh, I didn’t have any cravings this week because they finally were able to put themselves through, you know, like cleaning out their eating. [00:13:52][13.1]
[00:13:52] And now they’re used to eating healthy and eating like the healthy versions of sweet things or whatever it is, you know, and just having them have their aha moment, having them feel and live the transformation and understand it and be like, I love this, I can do this and I want to do this forever. That’s my favorite. [00:14:10][18.1]
[00:14:11] That makes a big difference, you know. El Paso has been in the last couple of years. I’ve been here since 1991, so I’ve seen the transition. When I first came here, El Paso was really dilapidated. It was a different town. And I got to say that when I first, I came from South Florida, my background was a fitness person and we were all into exercise physiology in Florida and California when we came out. When I came out here in 91, it was, there was no one into fitness. It was hard. They didn’t understand what it was to diet. There were a lot of metabolic syndromes, a lot of issues with weight, you know, waist-hip ratios. It just wasn’t important at one point. As I mentioned before in a prior podcast says that El Paso was considered the fattest sweatiest town in the United States. At one point. So this is within about. Around 2000, I started seeing a migration of a lot of fitness people and a lot of people that really took to it. And it’s really cool to see you guys because you guys have a love for fitness. [00:15:07][56.4]
[00:15:09] That’s endemic everywhere in El Paso, where right now we’re inside of the Push Fitness Center. It’s a Crossfit type of fitness center. Daniel Alvarado owns it. And he’s the one that actually might be here in a few moments. But what I wanted to say was that the world has changed in terms of fitness and it’s got a lot of individuals like yourselves out there teaching people, showing people. Where do you teach people at? Where is your fitness center at? [00:15:33][24.4]
[00:15:34] Well, right now, at the moment, I am not at a fitness center, but when I do have a fitness center, where I have been is Matt’s personal training and wellness center, which is on Airport Road. And so I am one of the trainers that use those facilities. [00:15:51][16.5]
[00:15:52] Before that, I was working at Gold’s Gym. But right now the goal is to have my own small, just small gym for only personal training. Personal coaching. Yeah, yeah. I originally wanted to have like actually kind of like this, like the push fitness, you know, not necessarily Crossfit but like a small gym where anybody can come and do their workouts. And also I’d like hit, I like teaching like short 30 minute hit classes. [00:16:16][23.9]
[00:16:16] When you say hit, what do you do particularly in your hit classes? [00:16:18][2.1]
[00:16:19] My gosh, so many things. [00:16:22][3.2]
[00:16:24] So for hit, I enjoy anything that is a lot, enjoy is a very particular word because it’s like you kind of hate it at that moment, but then you feel so good afterward. [00:16:34][9.8]
[00:16:35] And it’s a lot of jumping. So a lot of plyo. Plyometrics. So a lot of jumping. A lot of like box jobs. Burpees, love the burpees. The best thing is the combos of burpees and something else. So for example, like a burpee to a clean & press, burpee, clean & press and then just do that like 10 times and then you do something else. A lot of slam ball. You know, I love doing those in a lot of compound movements. And I also like doing the HIRT, which is high-intensity resistance training. So it’s kind of like hit. But instead of so much jumping. Right, you’re doing more of the strength. So really pushing, pushing, pushing short sets. Repeat, repeat, repeat. Between four and six minutes. And then I give a break, maybe 45 seconds to a minute and then we keep going. [00:17:18][43.0]
[00:17:19] That’s awesome. You know, with the transition, with the people who are stuck at home. How have you adapted to that situation in terms of the COVID protocol? [00:17:27][8.4]
[00:17:27] No. Well, basically virtual. Just seeing everybody virtual. I live in a small apartment, but I have a space where I can move. So I just tell my clients, make sure you find a spot in your house, your backyard, wherever you can. Where you have enough room to do A, B, and C before we have our meeting. And then we meet up and on Zoom. Zoom. Uh-huh.[00:17:49][21.6]
[00:17:49] And basically I usually end up working out with my clients. I’m going to be honest with you. I can’t stand there watching you do push-ups. [00:17:58][8.1]
[00:17:58] You know what? That’s true. It’s true. It is a fitness individual. I don’t know the idea that the best workouts are when you do it with somebody. Right. So, you know, in terms of even as a young kid, I was involved in training individuals and it was not fun watching. You know, it’s like I’m wasting my life here watching you. Right. So you get in there with them, you know, and while you’re in there, you give them the right amount of time to rest. And it’s almost like back and forth. So it’s kind of in tune the same way. So I like that. What other things do you do in terms of the times? The time? [00:18:32][34.0]
[00:18:33] Well, besides that, because a lot of people don’t have equipment at home. So I am implementing a lot of my hit workouts with the people that can do it. But for example, my older clients, they can’t really be, you know, like jumping around and doing things like that. But we work more on balance and flexibility and just basic strength. So no equipment workouts, which honestly, you don’t necessarily need equipment to get a good workout. You can always kick your butt with nothing like you, just your own body weight. So I do a lot of body weight. If people happen to have a lot of us have equipment, you know, at home, like some of us have a couple of dumbbells or a band or something. So I just adapt to whatever they have at home, be that nothing or a full gym at home. You know, some people are lucky and they just have a full gym so I can go all out. [00:19:22][49.1]
[00:19:22] What do you think of this new movement with the rubber bands and people using, you know, elastic bands to be able to supplement? [00:19:27][4.7]
[00:19:27] I like it. I like it a lot because of several things. One, it’s cheaper, so it makes strength training more reachable for anybody. More approachable. [00:19:39][11.5]
[00:19:41] And you can take it anywhere so you can travel with them. You can keep your routine even if you travel. And another thing that I like as a trainer and fitness person, you know, you need variety both in what you eat and what you do activity-wise. So I think they also add a nice variety to what you can do with them. The only thing is you need to know, like with so many other things, you need to educate yourself or have someone educate you about how to properly use them because it’s so easy for a band, for example, to put it in the wrong place by your knees and put the pressure in the wrong place, and I’m sure as you know, you could mess up joints and things by not putting the right equipment in the right place. So if you’re using a band wrong, you could potentially maybe cause some damage if you don’t. Don’t know how to use it properly. [00:20:29][48.3]
[00:20:29] Yeah, we were, I was watching, my son, who he actually trains people and they got caught in Chicago and they were kind of held in the university and no gym. The gyms were closed and out there in Chicago as well. And they developed these kinds of rubber band techniques. [00:20:45][15.2]
[00:20:46] That are amazing. And he calls his group, the functional fitness fellows. But what they learn is with all those exercises that you guys do with the rubber bands, you know, it really helps out the joints because the rubber bands kind of glide in the direction of the body movement. And that’s not obvious until you go through it. You feel like, man, this feels good. This rubber band. And then you also get the negative joy out of it, too, because you’re holding it from snapping back. Right. So it’s really a really cool thing. So I think that’s cool. What are the, do you work on diets as well? [00:21:19][32.6]
[00:21:19] Yes. Yes, I actually do a lot of nutrition. So anybody that I train for fitness, I also coach them in their nutrition. Again, we were talking about how they go hand-in-hand. You can’t have one without the other. And so for diets, I usually, it depends on what people’s goals are. Most people, especially in El Paso, like we’re talking about, most people are looking to lose weight, get fit. Right. So first of all, to lose weight, we need to balance things out. I always, always suggest to everybody, just for health in general, is to balance your plate in a way that half of it, half to 75 percent of it, should be vegetables. [00:21:59][39.3]
[00:22:00] That’s what I just, makes me happy, you know. Yeah. And I think that’s the best. Why? Because they have fiber. They have vitamins, minerals. They have all the good stuff that we need. [00:22:08][8.6]
[00:22:09] Well, if you look at a food plate now, if you just Google like what a food plate should be. So much of it is grains and bread. And it’s not. It’s like the person who made it isn’t. They need more vegetables, you know. So that, yeah, we need more. [00:22:24][15.1]
[00:22:24] I struggle with that with clients precisely because they see that plate. And it’s like but here it says that I need to have bread every day. A quarter of my plate should be bread. Well, no though. Yeah. Especially not if you want to lose weight and especially not that bread. It’s like, you know. [00:22:42][17.7]
[00:22:42] And so basically I always recommend. You want weight loss. You want to feel better. Let’s cut out all the super processed grains first. First of all, no pasta, no bread, no cookies, no processed sugar, no added sugars. That’s my first step. [00:22:55][12.5]
[00:22:55] And what do you, what do they say when that happens? What are they going to get? [00:22:58][2.7]
[00:22:58] They get very sad. But it’s also like unknowing sadness. [00:23:06][8.0]
[00:23:07] Like I knew you were going to say that, you know, it’s kind of like they don’t say it, but you can see it in their eyes. And it’s like, I’m sorry. Like, I know everyone wants to hear magical. What do you call like a recipe, a magical recipe that just like snaps and I can eat and do whatever and just Netflix all day and eat chips and be skinny but and fit? But you can’t like. You can’t. Yeah. So, yeah, 50 to 75 percent veggies. The other quarter or half should be balanced between proteins and healthy fats and maybe a few carbs but whole grains. And I always suggest that whole grains and that type of starches and things are kept to a minimum. [00:23:49][42.0]
[00:23:49] I always recommend especially for weight loss, either just keep them out completely or two to three times a week. I would say no more than three times a week is what I recommend. And I usually recommend my clients to eat their grains, whole preferably, you know, brown rice or quinoa or buckwheat. Oh, my God, I’m loving buckwheat. I just started buying it and eating it. And I love it. [00:24:11][22.1]
[00:24:12] I mean, but it’s very little like you literally need half a cup. You know you don’t need a million pounds of this. You don’t need to fill up a bowl with rice or something and then put like three vegetables on it. [00:24:24][12.5]
[00:24:24] It’s the opposite. [00:24:25][0.3]
[00:24:25] So do you do the Zoom diets, too, as well. Do you help them out with their diet? [00:24:28][3.0]
[00:24:28] Yeah. Yeah, we do. So I do. For nutrition coaching we usually talk and kind of like this. [00:24:32][3.8]
[00:24:33] It’s basically a conversation, you know the first time I get to know my client, we talk about it. What are your needs? What do you do? What is your schedule? Do you like to cook? Do you have time to cook? [00:24:44][11.7]
[00:24:45] Because all of these are important things, you know, and. Yeah, and yeah cooking makes life easier. But at the same time, not everyone has the time or ability. [00:24:52][7.6]
[00:24:53] And you want to make a plan for them that they’ll stick to. [00:24:55][2.2]
[00:24:55] Yeah, exactly. And you want them to stick to it. So I always try to work with them in regards to. Okay. What do you have available this and this and this. I make a note. We talk about it. I give them the information we verbally. But then once we’re done, now that we’re doing it this way, once we’re done, I send an email that has all the knowledge that I have. So everything that we talk about portions, the plate, portion sizes. So, like, measure your proteins like this. Like, for example, your fist is good to measure your vegetables. And for example, for women, we want to eat at least four to six portions a day. [00:25:29][33.9]
[00:25:30] So it’s like that’s an easy way to eyeball it. [00:25:33][3.2]
[00:25:36] I’m not the best. Always, at getting four to six, but it’s a good number to have again. [00:25:41][5.5]
[00:25:43] Four to six is good. You know what? For many of the diets, you kind of try to figure out which diets can work for people. Sometimes we end up with like Mediterranean, low fat, low carbohydrate diets. These diets, they change. I’m finding that a lot of the, just for El Paso in general, from the Mediterranean to low fats to even the ketogenic diet and though there’s been a lot of talk about the ketogenic diet. Do you do that? Do you offer those or what kind of diets do you like working with an individual, with an individual? [00:26:12][29.8]
[00:26:13] It really again, it depends on the person, because you also have to take into account like vegan people, people who are vegan, who are vegetarian or who have certain allergies to certain things. And so you need to really take a lot of that into account. And so I don’t necessarily prefer those like very restrictive diets, like keto and things only because people have a really hard time sticking to them. [00:26:41][28.2]
[00:26:42] I don’t know anyone who can for a long time, no. It’s hard. [00:26:44][2.4]
[00:26:45] And then they always want to, like, kind of cheat. And it’s like, oh. But I had this, too. And it’s like, no, no, no. Like, if you’re doing keto, it’s so specific. [00:26:52][7.1]
[00:26:52] Like Kenna was talking about, if you don’t know what this process is doing in your body, like there’s a specific reason why you’re only supposed to eat A, B, and C, but not D, E, F, you know. And if you add a little bit of these other ones, you’re throwing the whole thing off balance and instead of losing weight and still feeling better, you’re going to actually ruin it. So I prefer to work on something that is sustainable, which would be just OK. Kind of like portioned yourself. Try aim for the plates. But I do like paleo. Yeah, I love paleo or like primal ish. Yes. I always say that my diet is kind of primal ish. How so? Because I stick mostly meats, vegetables, fruits, seeds, nuts, vegetables, fruits, meats. I don’t do a lot of byproducts like I’ll eat eggs for example that. But that’s something that you could have gotten, you know, primally. I do. And then the ish comes from the grain sometimes, you know. Mm-hmm. So my ish comes from grains, sometimes cooked potatoes which, obviously that wasn’t a thing that they were doing. And my added sugars, I guess, which I don’t do a lot of. And I use monk fruit and I use stevia. But for the most part, I try to eat as whole as possible. And I consider that primal ish. Because it’s mostly things that are the least processed possible, and that’s what I prefer to give people. [00:28:24][92.0]
[00:28:25] Do you give your clients like help in the grocery store? Like, I know I learned when I first went to college and I had to buy my own groceries, that if you stick to usually the outside of the grocery stores, you’re gonna be way healthier because once you start going in those aisles, that’s where you start. All of the bad stuff, all the additives, it all starts coming in. And a lot of people I didn’t even think about it until I was in that position. I was like, wow, that’s true. Yeah. So what kind of tips do you give your clients when it comes to grocery shopping and success and things like that? [00:28:57][32.6]
[00:28:58] Basically that. Exactly, yeah. When I first heard the saying I was already doing it, but I hadn’t thought about it. [00:29:04][5.8]
[00:29:05] And so when I heard shop the perimeter of the store is when I thought, oh, no wonder I never know where anything is inside, like in the middle. I always if I ever need a can of something. Yeah. I’m like I don’t know where they have that or like if I’m going to bake. And I actually need regular flour for something like I don’t know where that is because I always just like shop the perimeter of the store. So yes, that’s I would definitely do that when shopping. [00:29:31][26.1]
[00:29:32] Just stick to buying things that have the least amount of processing. [00:29:36][4.4]
[00:29:37] So if you go around the perimeter, you get all your vegetables, you get your meats, you get your animal products right. You have your eggs, your milk, your cheese, you have all those things. So I think that’s a really good idea. You also have your freezers, which while they do have all the bad frozen stuff, they also are frozen fruits and veggies, which, as we know sometimes can be better than buying fresh, because if the zucchini is sitting in your fridge for two weeks, it’s lost a lot of nutrition. [00:30:04][26.5]
[00:30:04] But if you buy some frozen stuff, you can actually, you know, it keeps its nutrients a little better so you can make smoothies, especially for people who don’t have a lot of time. [00:30:15][10.5]
[00:30:15] I recommend frozen fruits, for example, and just kind of like throw them in there for the smoothies, some yogurt and let’s go, you know, quick breakfast. [00:30:22][6.9]
[00:30:23] We’re big fans, big smoothie fans here. Yes, big fans. Because, as you said, they’re just so fast. Yes. And you just throw everything you need in there. You’ve got your fruit. You can do vegetables in there, too. [00:30:33][10.3]
[00:30:34] Lizette, we have Daniel here. Daniel, come on in. Have a seat, please. [00:30:40][6.8]
[00:31:30] Daniel. Just to turn to you for a little bit here. I’ve noticed that in the last couple of days this place gets really packed in terms of people looking for new fitness during these periods of time. How has it been during this COVID period of time for you in terms of the diets, in terms of fitness? [00:31:43][14.0]
[00:31:46] It’s been a lot of adaptabilities trying to make sure to make everybody feel as comfortable and safe as possible, so we have constant like screening in every single class as far as wiping things down and mopping the area. I mean, the cleaners, the gym has never been cleaner than ever before, which is. [00:32:03][16.3]
[00:32:03] And I can attest to that. I love this place. I really wanna eat in this place, man. I want to eat off the floor. [00:32:07][3.9]
[00:32:10] But with that and then with still the online training promos that we’re doing, that I’m sending online it still gives people the option of either coming into the gym or doing it at home. We were able to rent, lend some equipment so they can feel comfortable and so do it at home until they feel safe and coming back to the gym. But through all of that, what I’ve told people is that they have to make sure that the workouts have to be a little bit longer than here because they’re living more sedentary lifestyles so they can’t eat the same as they were before. Even if you were used to driving from point A to point B, up and down, and round, you’re still doing more activity than you were before, because now you’re just behind the computer, sitting down and you sit down and then you go to the sofa. And then when you’re on the sofa, you water the grass. Isn’t going to the refrigerator… [00:33:04][54.5]
[00:33:05] Exercise? Unless you put your refrigerator a mile away from your house. That’s a good idea. Come to your house. Everyone can eat it at your refrigerator. [00:33:15][10.7]
[00:33:16] Only. Ten burpees on your way to the fridge every time. [00:33:19][3.3]
[00:33:20] Yeah, that’s a good idea. Ten burpees on the way to the fridge. You know what? That makes it worthwhile. Just punishment for opening the door. Exactly. [00:33:28][8.1]
[00:33:29] So I’ve noticed that everyone’s doing a lot of people, as I was just speaking regarding that she does the I guess the telehealth over the phone, over the systems, and in the Internet. And Zoom, you found that to be very comfortable. I know you began that process when this COVID got really hard and heavy. [00:33:45][15.9]
[00:33:46] You were all over it, like just talking to people one on one on the Internet. How did that work out? [00:33:51][4.9]
[00:33:52] Danny oh, me? Yeah. Yeah. [00:33:56][3.6]
[00:33:57] You know, it was a little bit. It was a harder transition for me first. Took me about a week after we shut down. To actually get it going. Just because. First of all, I’m not the craziest about even face time, I don’t like looking at myself when I’m talking to someone it’s weird. So I would have to shut off the camera. But then it defeats the purpose. You know, some people want to see you. So we develop videos and it shows you how to whether it’s me or another instructor and how to do the workouts and things like that. And then all our app is messaging. So you can instantly message on the app. And now we send out motivational quotes, daily tips, you know, things like that to help them keep them going. This is a transition because I got used to, you know, interacting with people on a day to day basis. So seeing me on a computer, which I hadn’t done in a very long time since I was back in school. Yeah. Was different for me, but it was good. I mean, you have to adapt to survive, you know. [00:34:54][57.0]
[00:34:56] You know, I’ve seen the whole world go through a massive transition in terms of the fitness. She was talking about the diets and how do you help people with diets and tune in to diets during this period of time? [00:35:07][10.9]
[00:35:09] Initially, first I ask what their lifestyle was like. Obviously, if they love working in a warehouse trying to keep them on a low carb diet like that is probably not the most ideal. They’re sweating, losing electrolytes, things like that. So they’re gonna be grumpy and dehydrated at the end of the day, so once they get their lifestyle, then from there I can adapt to their cording needs. You know, if they only work out three times a week, will we adjust more carbs on those workout days, less carbs on the non-workout days? So everything’s just right. Yeah, balance and manageability according to what the individual’s lifestyle is like. [00:35:50][41.4]
[00:35:52] You know, it’s really a big thing. And let me ask you this, how are people adapting to coming out and especially during these times? How are they feeling when they come in? And with all the regulations and all the fear that is behind people? [00:36:05][13.1]
[00:36:06] Well, we ensure that if before they walk into a door, if our main focus is that they can smell bleach, OK, if they can smell bleach, then our gym facilities are clean. So we try to keep that and I know this sounds kind of dumb, but I do ask people, hey, how does it smell? I’m sure you can smell the cleaning from the parking lot. Cool. We’re good. So that’s what makes people feel initially comfortable. Obviously they’re not inhaling it. So don’t misconstrue my words. [00:36:37][30.9]
[00:36:38] Well, well, well. We do have a biochemist on the line here. OK. So the biochemist would be my son and he calls me up and he goes… [00:36:46][7.2]
[00:36:46] Hey, Dad, listen, I know that you like the smell of bleach and I go yeah, that means it’s clean. But I want you to know something, chlorine is odorless. [00:36:54][8.3]
[00:36:56] It’s a good point. So he says it’s when it binds to certain urea molecules. Right. Where the smell of the chlorine comes out. So actually, the smell at a pool and the smell in an area is the actual effect of it’s combining with human dynamics. Isn’t that interesting? [00:37:14][18.1]
[00:37:15] So I don’t know if I wanted to know. [00:37:16][1.4]
[00:37:17] Oh, yes. I don’t think you wanted to know. But hey, you know what? [00:37:19][2.2]
[00:37:19] I got to tell you, it lets you know that when it’s being used and you smell that combination, it’s doing its job, working and working. [00:37:27][7.3]
[00:37:27] It’s working because chlorine. [00:37:30][3.0]
[00:37:31] Oh yes. Well yeah. Well you know I don’t know. This a different kind of show. I mean. He just took it to far. Yeah. Thank you. You took it too well but thank you for coming by Danny. No, no, no. [00:37:44][13.1]
[00:37:44] So, we’re looking at it and it really, really is a big difference because we’ve seen a lot of people. And what I was surprised with Danny is knowing how many people are, Lizette, there’s a lot of people out there, you know, that need the fitness. Right. Are you finding a lot of people coming to and knocking on your door to asking for your kind of like, help me now? [00:38:01][16.1]
[00:38:01] Because this is a real big problem. A lot of people don’t know what to do and they need help. Do you see that there’s a lot of people outreaching towards you right now because of the situation? [00:38:10][9.2]
[00:38:10] Yes, yes. Yes. Now, especially now that it’s been months and people are seeing the effects of their change of lifestyle, you know, the less walking, the less activity and the improper eating. Yeah, I have actually over the last week even I was approached by like three people within two days. Yes. That’s like not normal. [00:38:34][23.9]
[00:38:35] Right. Right. Because I’m not even promoting right now and we promote via social media. [00:38:40][5.3]
[00:38:42] You know, it’s like. Oh. Oh, jeez. OK. Yeah. Yeah. [00:38:45][2.6]
[00:38:45] You know what? I get ready to see sometimes though the context through the push and I see people 3:00 in the morning, hey I need help at 2:00 in the morning. People all over the time just we need help. We need to have individuals out there that can help us and guide us. So it’s really cool to see what’s going on. Let me ask you this in terms of these times, nutritional tips. Tell me a little bit about like what kind of nutritional tips you tell people. Danny just mentioned some things about, you know, certain things to eat. How do you do it? [00:39:13][27.9]
[00:39:14] Well, along the lines of what Danny was saying is exactly like a great point is making sure that what you’re taking in matches what you’re doing during the day. So if you’re doing your workout that day and you have like really intense workout or really intense job, you can eat maybe your carbs that day, you know, like add some rice or some buckwheat or quinoa to your lunch. On the other days, if you’re not doing anything, you only maybe walked for 30 minutes or an hour and then went home and just chilled all day. Then good salad, some grilled veggies, some steamed veggies, some grilled proteins or alternatives would be good. So my biggest tip is cut out all the additives that you don’t need, like sugars and super processed foods. But make sure that if you are exercising the days that you are active, you are ingesting the right amount of food and the right types of foods too, you know, like just basically that just match your foods, your intake to what you’re doing and mostly stick to the veggies, stick to the lean proteins. And then when you’re active, you can have a little bit of the starches. [00:40:26][71.4]
[00:40:27] I’d like to ask both you these questions because I know what we can talk forever and we have some gifted communicators here. But let me ask you this, Danny, in terms of like a visual how to set up a kitchen, you know, in terms of for success. I was, you know, kind of questioning. How do you approach a person and say, this is how I want you to set up your kitchen so that you can be successful? This is the domain. Everything starts in the kitchen. It starts there and from there propagates. So how do you help them out in terms of preparing the philosophy or the way of thinking for their kitchen? [00:41:01][34.2]
[00:41:03] In, man, that can be designed in 100 or one different, it depends on the person. [00:41:08][5.3]
[00:41:09] But. What I tell people is if they’re going to lose weight. [00:41:13][4.0]
[00:41:14] And it’s not healthy. Don’t buy it. That’s probably the easiest thing. Chips. Obviously, don’t buy them. Candy. Don’t buy it. [00:41:24][10.2]
[00:41:27] That’s true. Yes. [00:41:28][0.6]
[00:41:28] It’s a realistic way. Because if you buy it, I don’t care who you are. Even me, there’s a bag of chips at home. I’ll open them up and start eating away. [00:41:37][8.9]
[00:41:38] Yeah. Actually, yes. [00:41:38][0.6]
[00:41:39] So I’m not gonna tell people, you know, willpower. Just say no to those chips. It’s dumb, you know? It’s just don’t buy it because obviously at 9:00 at night, you’re less likely to go out to the corner store and buy chips or candy or ice cream or something like that. So it’s better you don’t buy it. So if, for example, your cheat day is on a Saturday, then go out on a Saturday and go buy, go to the grocery store and buy like somalo kind of ice cream. Don’t buy a tub of ice cream because you know, you’re eating it. [00:42:14][34.6]
[00:42:14] Well, I mean, you might finish in a day, but don’t. [00:42:17][3.2]
[00:42:18] But at least you have a gauge as far as what to do and what not to do. And then you can also do it as far as. Right. All right. So I didn’t buy this amount of extra and I saved forty bucks. Why don’t you take that 40 bucks and put it into like an extra count, you add it up? That’s an extra 300 bucks a month. And use that to reward yourself. You could buy, I don’t know whatever you’re into, not necessarily new clothes, something for your cars and for your house, you know, but find other means of reward for yourself, because if you’re just looking for food as a reward, then you’re going to go into a constant cycle of never losing weight. [00:42:56][37.9]
[00:42:56] Danny, you mentioned something that was real, real important. And I think sometimes we need some weight up quarantine ourselves because we’ll be good if we’re quarantined. [00:43:04][7.5]
[00:43:05] And one of the things is through the budget, if you can take the budget and you can say, I want to you know, my family typically spends, let’s say, four hundred dollars on their food a week because it gets expensive. Right. How about just say, you know what, I am not going to allow me this myself to spend more than 300 dollars. Right. And in that three hundred dollars, you kind of make you got to shoot it. Perfect. In other words, you’re not going to get the extra junk. The ice creams and the stuff you’re gonna get them, the stuff that is healthy inside the diet. And if you can do that. I bet you say that if a family that eats 400 hours a week can say, I’m going to make my budget last for 250, 250, let’s say 250, start with 250, and bust yourself to work 250 in that store and make sure that you don’t put anything extra at that point. You’ve hit close to the market. And before, you know, your refrigerator starts looking good, it starts looking nutritional things and you don’t have the extra the bonbons, the sugary stuff, the chocolates, the cookies, all those things get that are really, really bad in our diets. If they are expensive, too. And that’s what you were alluding to, that you say, you know what? That’s extra money. But if we don’t know and what’s 100 bucks a week for food and for a family that’s four hundred dollars a month? Well, that’s four hundred dollars. That’s five thousand dollars a year. That’s five thousand dollars. So if we look at it, if you look at one hundred, you can save about two thousand dollars almost. If you want a hundred fifty dollars. What can you do with two thousand dollars a year? That’s just on the budget side of things. Right. So if you can contain it and say, you know, I want to stick to that, it may help people also guide and make the right choices because I don’t have the option to go ahead and buy the chips aisle. That’s expensive. And that’s the stuff that gets us, you know, kind of unhealthy. Well, the well-nourished is what they call it. That’s what I call it in the books. Well-nourished. So those are the cool things. So let me ask you this in terms of nutritional tips for people to kind of be left with today, because I know we can talk for three days here. Nutritional tips. What are the nutritional tips during these times? If you could give them Lizette. Tell us about your nutritional tips for people during these times that would help them out. [00:45:14][129.0]
[00:45:14] My nutritional tips. [00:45:15][0.8]
[00:45:15] Well, part of like with the kitchen set up one thing that I feel like it’s important that you can implement. Some of the suggestions that I’ve said before is having the right kind of equipment in the kitchen, for example, if you have, for example, good nonstick pans. [00:45:31][16.2]
[00:45:32] That’s going to reduce the amount of oil because so many people are like, oh, well, just so it doesn’t stick a million gallons of oil, it’s like no no no get a good nonstick pan. [00:45:41][8.8]
[00:45:42] And then one teaspoon of oil should be enough to give your food a good flavor and kind of like, you know, measure yourself basically, measure your oil and make sure you have the right equipment. Bake things. Make sure you have stuff in the kitchen to bake, to grill. Anything baked, anything grilled is much better than anything fried. Right. Of course. [00:46:02][19.7]
[00:46:03] And get an air fryer. You can have. Oh, my gosh. Yes. You can get fries. You can have wings. But not extra greasy. You know, like every now and then when you have your treat instead of a super greasy meal, you know, you can make it. [00:46:17][13.6]
[00:46:17] So basically, just make sure you have the resources to make healthy choices. Like Danny’s point is exactly something that I always say is don’t keep it. That’s also my number one, is don’t keep junk at home. Only get it when you want it at the weekend. Whenever you cheat day is get one for that day and that’s it. Other than that, fill up on veggies and lean proteins and save the starch and the carbs for either when you worked out really, really hard, or only two to three times a week and only wholegrain. [00:46:48][30.9]
[00:46:49] Those are amazing tips. I could totally see myself doing that. You got some tips, Danny, for people during these times. [00:46:54][5.8]
[00:47:04] Make sure you distinguish whether if you’re thirsty or you’re hungry. It’s a lot of times people will confuse that. And so if you drink eight, 16 ounces of water, even you can swing it with a little crystal light. I don’t always recommend that, but you can chug that first. And if you’re still hungry, then your body needs some nutritional value. [00:47:25][20.3]
[00:47:25] But if you get full after you get energized, like you should be good, you’re just thirsty, dehydrated. [00:47:30][5.0]
[00:47:31] And then another thing too, is moderation of fruits. You know, apples and strawberries, blueberries, things like that. Anything like mangoes, bananas, a little bit higher in sugar. So maybe you can stay away from those because they sometimes will make you hungrier because they’ll release, certain hormones and they’ll trick your body into thinking that it’s really hungrier when it’s not. So a lot people will confuse that when you eat carbs. You sometimes get full, you get full for a short amount of time, and then you’re hungry right away again. And then you think your metabolism is going. But it’s not necessarily true. It’s releasing hormones as tricking the mind and the body to thinking that it’s hungry and it’s not full. [00:48:12][40.6]
[00:48:12] But in reality, you like it. You’re not hungry. Yes. Yes. So distinguishing those two as part of those, the top two of them on top of. Well, as I just said, that would help you. Like I said, the more basic, the better. The more complex, the more options give yourself, the harder it’s going to be. Every. There’s so many diets out there and they’re all good in their own way as long as you stay consistent. Yes. Reason diets don’t work is because everybody stops after fourteen or fifteen days and then they have to start the loop all over again. Takes 21 days to create a habit. So if you break that before you got it, you have to start every single time. So it’s like drive yourself crazy. It’s insane. You know? Yeah. [00:49:00][47.9]
[00:49:00] Well, I tell you, I’ve learned a lot. I’ve learned. You know, I’ve learned about monk fruit. You have mentioned the monk fruit and tell me before. But before you go, what do you, what’s your theories on monk fruit? Lizette. [00:49:10][9.8]
[00:49:11] Well, for now. So far. Yeah. Remember when Splenda was good? [00:49:16][5.2]
[00:49:17] What I gotta tell you right now, Splenda is like they’re saying, hey, you know what? Even stevia. You mean even organic stevia. It’s already like, you know, it’s on the cutlist. [00:49:24][6.6]
[00:49:24] Now it’s my Alzheimer’s. That’s right, Bill. You’re gonna leave me with no options. [00:49:31][7.3]
[00:49:32] Well, so far for until. For now, it seems like monk fruit. It tastes a lot like sugar. So it helps you with that like craving. But it doesn’t have the like the effect that the fruits or the grains will give you where your insulin is going to drop and then you’re gonna be hungry again. Or you store it in. It turns into fat or anything like that. So far it looks like it doesn’t. I love it because it doesn’t have that bitter chemical aftertaste. [00:50:01][28.7]
[00:50:01] That maybe some stevias do. And I’ve gotten away with sneaking that into desserts for kids and other people that don’t know that’s in it and they don’t notice the difference. Yeah, and they’re cutting a ton of calories. You know, I love it so far. [00:50:17][15.8]
[00:50:18] It’s an amazing little dynamic option there, because one of the things is, is that with diseases now, the monster is insulin. And if we can stop the insulin reaction from occurring, that is the name of the game, whether it’s through periodic eating or limiting your time slots of eating, the whole thing is to stop Lipoprotein lipase from putting it into fat. And the thing that does that is insulin. And monk fruit seems to not stimulate an insulin response. So that becomes the biochemistry, from what I understand. [00:50:49][30.5]
[00:50:49] And like you said, as of today, right now we don’t know. [00:50:53][4.4]
[00:50:53] So we’ll talk about those things as we go. Listen, guys, I want to thank you guys up and down on the bottom. You’ll see the connection to everybody here and the links directly to their facilities. And I look forward to having that. So we’ll be able to talk about some more things in the future. Thank you, Kenna. Thank you Lizette. Danny, thank you. Thank you, me. We’re all here. And it was a pretty comfortable place and it was a really interesting dynamics. And we’re gonna be bring different topics in. And as we go through the times and discuss those issues that are important to our people in El Paso, it’s very important to be able to kind of understand the minds, to be in with our patients. It’s not about them and us. It’s about we. So when we work together, we look together for solutions and it’s not so mezocryptic when you realize that people like us are all really trying to help everybody here. So look forward to connecting again and look forward to hearing from you. So, thank you, guys. Thank you again. [00:51:44][51.0]
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Dr. Alex Jimenez RN, DC, MSACP, CCST
PODCAST: Dr. Alex Jimenez and Dr. Marius Ruja discuss the importance of personalized medicine genetics and micronutrients for overall health and wellness. Following a proper diet and participating in exercise alone isn’t enough to make sure that the human body is functioning properly, especially in the case of athletes. Fortunately, there are a variety of tests available that can help people determine if they have any nutritional deficiencies that may be affecting their cells and tissues. Vitamin and mineral supplements can also ultimately help improve an individual’s overall health and wellness. While we may not be able to change certain aspects of our genes, Dr. Alex Jimenez and Dr. Marius Ruja discuss that following a proper diet and participating in exercise while taking the proper supplements, can benefit our genes and promote well-being. – Podcast Insight
[00:00:00] Welcome, guys. We’re Dr. Marius Ruja and myself. We’re going to be discussing some really important topics for those athletes that want the advantage. We’re going to be discussing real important clinical technologies, as well as information technologies that can really make an athlete or even just the average person a little bit more aware of what’s actually happening in terms of their health. There’s a new word out there, and I just have to kind of give you a little heads up, where we’re calling. We’re actually coming from the PUSH fitness center, it’s this huge monster that actually people are still working out late at night tonight and after going to church. So they’re working out and they’re having a good time. So what we want to do is we want to bring in these topics. And today we’re gonna be talking about personalized medicine. Mario, you know, ever heard of that word, Mario? [00:01:04][63.8]
[00:01:05] Yeah, all the time, Alex. All the time. I dream about it? There you go. Mario. [00:01:13][8.3]
[00:01:14] So we’re going to be talking about is the personalized arena of what we have now. We’ve come to a state where a lot of people tell us, hey, hey, you know what? You should have some more proteins, fats, or they come up with some convoluted idea and you’ll end up with your eyes crossed and most of the time more confused than anything else. And you’re pretty much a lab rat to all these different techniques, whether it’s the Mediterranean, low fat, high fat, all these kind of things. So the question is, is that what is specific to it. And I think one of the frustrations that a lot of us have, Mario, is that we don’t know what to eat, what to take, and what’s good for me doesn’t mean that it’s good for my friend. You know, Mario, it’s different. We come from a whole different kind of genre. We live in a place and we’ve gone through things that are different from 200 years ago. What do people do? Well, we’re going to be able to figure this out nowadays in today’s DNA dynamics, though, we don’t treat with these. It just gives us information and it allows us to relate to the issues that are affecting us. Now, today, we’re gonna be talking about personalized medicine and DNA testing and micronutrient assessments. So we’re gonna see what it is that we. How are our genes, the actual predisposing issues, or they’re the ones that give us the workings of our engine? And then also, if it’s good for that, then we also want to know what our level of nutrients is. Right now, I know, Mario, you had a very dear and near question the other day with one of your I think was your daughter. Oh, yeah. What was she? What was her question? [00:02:51][96.9]
[00:02:51] Yeah. So Mia had an excellent question, you know, she was asking me about, you know, utilizing Keratin, which is very predominant in and, you know, athletes, you know, it’s the buzz word, you know. You know, use creatine to build more muscle and such. So the point that I talk to you about, Alex, is, you know, this is something so serious, so, so important that we cannot let in in terms of the sports environment, performance environment. It’s like taking a Bugatti and you’re going, well, you know what? Hey, what do you think about like just putting, like, you know, synthetic oil in? Well, is it the synthetic oil that is necessary or that Bugatti? Well, it’s good because it’s synthetic. Well, no. There are lots of different forms of synthetic. You know, it’s like five-thirty, five-fifteen, whatever it is, the viscosity level. It has to match. So same thing for athletes and especially for Mia, you know, the generality. Well, let them know who Mia is?� [00:04:06][75.0]
[00:04:07] What does she do? What kind of. Oh, yeah. [00:04:08][1.1]
[00:04:08] Mia, you know, Mia plays tennis. So her passion is tennis. And she’s nationally ranked and she plays internationally on the International Circuit ITF. And she’s right now in Austin with Karen and the rest of The Brady Bunch, as I call them, you know, she’s working hard and through all this COVID, you know, kind of disconnect. Now she’s getting back into, you know, the fitness mode. So she wants to optimize. She wants to really, you know, do her very best to catch up and move forward. And the question about nutrition, a question about what she needed. I needed a specific answer, not just general. Well, I think it’s good. You know, good is good and better is best. And the way that we look at it in that conversation of sports performance and also genetic nutritional conversation, functional medicine conversation. It’s like let’s get really functional. Let’s be on point instead of buckshot. [00:05:20][71.3]
[00:05:21] You know, it’s like you can go in and say, you know, it generalities. But in terms of this, there’s not a lot of information that is out there for athletes. And that’s where the conversation linking the genetic and linking the micronutrients. That is phenomenal because as you mentioned, Alex, when we look at the markers, genetic markers, we see the strengths, the weaknesses, we see what’s at risk and what is not. Is the body adaptive or is the body weak? So then we have to address the micronutrients to support. Remember we…� [00:06:00][39.3]
[00:06:00] Talked about that, to support that weakness in that DNA, that genetic pattern with something that we can strengthen. [00:06:11][10.7]
[00:06:12] I mean, you can’t go and change your genetics, but you surely can increase and be specific with your micronutrients to really change that platform and strengthen it and decrease the risk factors. [00:06:23][11.4]
[00:06:24] It’s fair to say now that the technology is such Mario that we can actually find the… I wouldn’t say weaknesses, but the variables that allow us to improve an athlete. At the genetic level. Now, we can’t alter the genes. That’s not what we’re saying, is that there’s a world of what they call SNP or single nucleic polymorphisms where we can actually figure out there’s a certain set of genes that we can’t change like eye color. We can’t do those. Those are very coded in. Right. But there are genes that we can influence through nutrigenomics and nutrigenetics. So when I say nutrigenomics, this is nutrition, altering and affecting the genome right. To a more adaptive or more opportunistic dynamics. Now, wouldn’t you like to know what genes you have that are vulnerable? Wouldn’t she like to know where her vulnerability is? [00:07:18][53.8]
[00:07:18] What do we all want to know? [00:07:19][0.8]
[00:07:19] Whether you’re a high-level athlete or you’re a high-level CEO or you’re just a high-level mom and dad, that’s running around too, from tournament to tournament. [00:07:30][11.0]
[00:07:31] And you cannot afford to have low energy that, you know, when we talked about the markers, you know, that methylation within the body, we want to know, are we processing or how are we doing in terms of the oxidative pattern within ourselves? Do we need that extra boost? Do we need to, you know, increase that green intake, that detoxified pattern, or are we doing well? And this is where when we look at the patterns of genetic markers, we can see that we are well-prepared or we are not well-prepared. Therefore, we have to look at the micronutrients again, those markers to say, are we meeting our needs? Yes or no or are we just generalizing? And I would say 90 percent of athletes and people out there, they’re generalizing. They’re saying, well, you know, taking vitamin C is good and taking vitamin D is good and selenium, you know, that’s good. But again, are you on point? Are we just guessing, right, Alex? [00:08:36][65.4]
[00:08:36] Exactly. That’s the thing. When we’re in that store and there’s a lot of great nutritional centers, Mario, that are out there. And we’re looking at a wall of a thousand products. Right. Crazy, we don’t know where we have holes. We don’t know where we need them. That, you know, there are certain deficiencies. You got bleeding gums. Most likely you’ve got some sort of scurvy or, you know, some sort of issue there that you’re meeting especially. But let’s assume we look at things like scurvy. Right. Well, we know that gums start bleeding well, and it’s sometimes not that obvious, right. That that we need certain things. There are hundreds and thousands of nutrients out there. One of the things that we call them, we call them cofactors, a CO factor is a thing that allows an enzyme to work. Right. So we are a machine of enzymes. And what codes those enzymes? Well, the DNA structure, right. Because it produces the proteins that code those enzymes. Right. So but those enzymes, they have cofactors like minerals, like magnesium, iron, potassium, selenium, as you mentioned, and all different components. As we look at this, this hole that we’re facing a wall. We would love to know exactly where our holes are because, Bob, you’re my best friend says, you know, you should take protein, take whey protein, you should take iron, you should take this. Maybe so. And we’re hit or miss. Right. So today’s technology is allowing us to see exactly what it is, where we have the holes and this point that you mentioned about the holes. [00:10:03][86.7]
[00:10:04] Again, the majority of the factors are not that extreme, like. Like scurvy, you know, bleeding gums. We’re not. I mean, we live in a society where gosh. I mean, Alex, we have all the food that we need. As a matter of fact, we got too many foods. It’s crazy. I mean, again, the issues that we talk about is overeating, not starving. OK. Or we’re overeating and still starving because the nutritional pattern is very low. So that’s a real factor there. But overall, we are really looking and addressing the component of what. [00:10:35][31.4]
[00:10:37] Subclinical issues. You know, we don’t have the symptoms. We don’t really have those big marker symptoms, you know, but we do have low energy, but we do have a low recovery pattern. But we do have that problem with sleep, that quality of sleep. So those, again, are not things that are huge, but those are subclinical, that erode our health and performance little by little. For example, with athletes, they can not be just good. They need to be tip of the spear top. They need to recover so quickly because, in their performance pattern, they do not have time to guess. [00:11:19][41.9]
[00:11:19] And I see that they don’t. You know, as you mentioned, that I mean, most of these athletes, when they want to assess their bodies. They want to know where every weakness is, they’re like scientists or laboratory rats for themselves. They’re pushing their bodies to the extreme from mental to physical to psychosocial. Everything is affecting them, put it in at full throttle. But they want to know. They want to know where that extra edge is. You know what? If I could make you a little bit better. If there was a little hole. What would that amount to? A two more second drop in over a period of time, a microsecond drop? Well, the point is that the technology is there and we have the ability to do these things for people. And the information is coming faster than we can even imagine. [00:12:04][44.8]
[00:12:05] We have doctors around the world, scientists around the world looking at the human genome, and seeing these issues specifically at SNPs, these single nuclear polymorphisms that can be changed or that can be altered or can be assisted in the dietary ways. [00:12:19][14.5]
[00:12:20] Go ahead. I’ll give you one, the InBody. [00:12:23][2.6]
[00:12:24] How about that? Yeah, that’s a tool right there. That is critical for a conversation with an athlete. The InBody is body composition. Yeah. BMI. Yes. You know, you’re looking at it in terms of your hydration pattern. [00:12:37][13.2]
[00:12:38] You’re looking at in terms of like. Yes. Body fat, that whole conversation, everyone wants to know. You know, I’m overweight, my belly fat. Again, we’re talking about how we had conversations on metabolic syndrome. We had conversations on risk factors, you know, high triglycerides, very low… [00:12:53][15.9]
[00:12:54] HDL. High LDL. I mean, those are risk factors that put you in a pattern in that line towards diabetes and that line towards, you know, cardiovascular disease in that line of dementia. But when you’re talking about an athlete, you’re not worried about diabetes. They’re worried about am I ready for the next tournament? And I want to make the cut. [00:13:15][21.0]
[00:13:15] I’m going to the Olympics. That’s yes. [00:13:16][1.1]
[00:13:17] That’s I mean, they’re not, that’s what they want to do and that InBody and the micronutrient that combination of genome nutrition, that genomic nutrition conversation on point allows them to honor their work. Because I’m telling you, Alex, and, you know this, I mean, everyone’s listening to us, you know, if you again. The conversation I share with people is this. Why are you training like a pro when you don’t want to be one? Why are you trained like a pro when you are not eating and have the data to support that pro-level workout? What you’re doing, if you don’t do that, you are destroying your body. So, again, if you’re working like a pro, that means you’re grinding. I mean, you’re pushing your body to limits, neuromuscular. Again, we’re chiropractors. We deal with inflammatory issues. If you’re doing that, you’re redlining that. But you are not turning around to recover through micro nutrition-specific chiropractic work. Then you’re going to damn it, you’re not going to make it. [00:14:25][68.4]
[00:14:26] We’re going to show that we’ve been able to see in a lot of times cities come together for certain sports, such as wrestling. Right. Wrestling is one of those notorious sports that puts the body through massive, massive emotional and physical stresses. But a lot of times what happens is individuals have to lose weight. You’ve got to have guys hundred sixty pounds. He’s got to drop down 130 pounds. Right. So what the city has done in order to avoid these things is to use specific bodies, specific weight, and they determine actually what’s the molecular weight of the urine. Right. So they can actually tell you are you too concentrated. Right. So what they do is that they have all these kids line up all the way to UTEP. Right. And they do a specific gravity test to determine if they’re able to lose any more weight or what’s the weight that they’re allowed to lose. So someone who’s about 220 says, you know what? You can drop up to about, you know, X, Y, Z pounds. Right. [00:15:19][53.4]
[00:15:20] Based on this test and if you violate this, then you do that. But that’s not good enough. We want to know what’s going to happen because what happens is when the kids in a load and he’s fighting another person that isn’t just as good of an athlete. And he’s pushing his body. That’s when the body. Collapses, the body can handle the load. But maybe the supplementation that the person has had, maybe their calcium has been so depleted that all of a sudden you’ve got this kid who’s 100 injuries, pops say it again, injuries, the elbow snaps he has dislocated. That’s what we see. And we wonder, how did he snap his elbow because his body has been depleted from these supplements. [00:15:58][38.0]
[00:15:59] And, Alex, on the same level, you’re talking about one on one, like that pugilistic, that intense three minutes of your life on the other level when it comes to tennis. That’s a three-hour conversation. Exactly. There are no subs, there is no coaching, no subs. You are in that gladiator arena. I mean, when I see Mia playing, okay. I mean, it is intense. I mean, every ball that’s coming to you, it’s coming to you with power. It’s coming in like, can you take this? It’s like someone like fighting across a net and looking at it. Are you going to quit? Are you going to chase this ball? Are you going to let it go? And that is where that definitive. The factor of…� [00:16:46][46.6]
[00:16:47] Optimal, optimal micronutrition connected with the conversation of what exactly do you need in terms of genomic conversation, will allow someone to scale up with a decrease risk factor of injuries where they know they can push themselves more and they have the confidence. [00:17:09][21.4]
[00:17:09] Alex. Alex, I’m telling you, this is not just nutrition. This is about the conference to know I got what I need and I can redline this thing. And it’s going to hold. [00:17:21][11.2]
[00:17:21] It’s not going to buckle. You know, that said, you know, I got a little Bobby. He wants to wrestle and he wants to be in. And the biggest nightmares, the moms, because you know what? They’re the ones that want Bobby to thump the other Bobby. Right, Bob or Billy. Right. And when their kids are getting thumped on, they want to provide them. And moms are the best cooks. They’re the ones they take care of. Right. They’re the ones that make sure. And you can see it that the pressure on the child is immense when parents are watching. And sometimes it’s just incredible to watch. But what can we give moms? What can we do for the parents to give them a better understanding of what’s going on? I’ve got to tell you, today’s with DNA tests, you know, all you have to do is kind of get the kid in the morning, open his mouth, you know, do a swab, drag that stuff off the side of his cheek, put it in a little done, done within a couple of days. What we actually can tell if Bobby’s got strong ligaments, if Bobby’s micronutrient levels are different in order to provide the parent with a better kind of, um, kind of a roadmap or a dashboard to be able to understand the information that’s affecting Bobby, so to speak. Right. [00:18:26][65.3]
[00:18:27] Because and this is what we’ve come to a long way. This is 2020 guys, 2020. This is not 19. You know, 75. No. [00:18:37][10.2]
[00:18:37] You know where Gatorade. Come on. Let’s talk about that Gatorade. I got my tub. I got my tub. And he’s got a lot of things on the side of it. I’m going to have everything. You look like Buddha. By the time you become diabetic with so much sugar, you’re eating. What is your thinking about this? [00:18:52][14.8]
[00:18:52] We have come to a long way, but we cannot just go in and go, oh, you need to hydrate here, you know, drink these electrolytes, Pedialyte and all that. That’s not good enough. I mean, that’s good. But it’s 2020, baby. You got to scale up and level up and we can’t use old data and old, you know, instrumentation and diagnostics because the kids now they’re starting at three years old, Alex. Yeah. Three years old. And I’m telling you right now at three, it is unbelievable. By the time they’re five and six, I mean. [00:19:29][36.8]
[00:19:30] I mean, I’m telling you the kids that I see they’re already in select teams, six years old and the select team is the thing. You know what, the thing that determines if a child is ready is attention span. Yeah. I got to tell you, you can watch this. You got to see a kid who’s at three years and six months and he ain’t paying attention three years and eight months. All of a sudden, he can focus more in front of the coach. Right. Yes. And you can tell because they wander and they’re not ready. [00:19:57][27.4]
[00:19:57] So we’re bringing the kids and we’re exposing them to loads, experiences. Then what we need to do is to give moms and dads the ability to understand and as well as athletes of NCAA. How can I see what’s actually happening in my bloodstream? Not a CBC, because the CBC is for basic stuff. You basically, you know, basic you know, a red blood cell, a white blood cell. We can do things. Metabolic panel tells us a generic thing, but now we know deeper, deeper information. Mario, we can go into the susceptibility of the gene markers and actually see this on tests. And these reports tell us exactly what it is and how it pertains. [00:20:35][37.5]
[00:20:35] And progression. So this is where I love. This is where I love, everything in the world of performance is pre and post. So, you know, when you’re a sprinter, they time you. [00:20:49][13.7]
[00:20:50] It’s electronic time. When you’re a wrestler, they look at you. You know, what’s your winning ratio? What’s your percentage? Anything. It’s all data. It’s data-driven. As a tennis player, as a soccer player, they will actually track you. Computers will actually track how strong, how fast is your serve? Is it 100 miles an hour? I mean, it is crazy. So now if you have that data. Alex, why is it that we do not have the same data for the most critical component, which is that biochemistry, that micronutritional, the foundation of performance is what happens inside of us, not what happens outside. And this is where people get confused. They think, well, you know, my kid works, you know, four hours a day and he has a private trainer, everything. My question is that is really good. But you’re putting that kid at risk if you are not supplementing on point, just as specifically when it comes to the special needs of that child or of that athlete, because if we don’t do that, Alex, we are not honoring the journey and the battle, that warrior, we’re not, we’re putting them at risk. And then all of a sudden, you know what, two, three months before a tournament, pulled a hamstring. Oh, you know what? You know, they got fatigued or all of a sudden they had to pull out of a tournament. You know, I see tennis players doing all of that. And why? Oh, they’re dehydrated. Well, you should never have that problem. You should already know before you go in exactly where you are, what you’re doing. [00:22:29][99.3]
[00:22:29] And I love the combination and a platform that we have for all of our patients, because within two, three months, we can show pre and post, can’t we? We can show, yes. Lists and body composition to the InBody systems and the systems that we use are incredible. These Dexas, we can actually do a bodyweight fat analysis. We can do a lot of things. But when it comes down to predispositions and what’s unique to individuals, go down to the molecular level. We can go down into the genes level and understand what the susceptibilities are. We can go on once we have the genes. We can also understand what the micronutrient level is on each individual. [00:23:09][39.4]
[00:23:09] So what’s pertaining to me? I may have more magnesium than you and the other child may have totally depleted magnesium or calcium or selenium and/or his proteins or its amino acids are shot. Maybe he’s got a digestive issue. Maybe he’s got lactose intolerance. We need to be able to figure out these things that affect them and we can’t guess. [00:23:29][20.0]
[00:23:30] And we know. The bottom line is there’s no need. [00:23:32][1.6]
[00:23:32] Everyone has that wonderful conversation, Alex, about, oh, you know what? I feel okay. When I hear that I cringe, I go, I feel okay. So you mean to tell me that you are putting your health, the most precious thing you have, and your performance based on a feeling like, wow, that means that your neuroreceptors in terms of pain tolerance are dictating your health. That’s dangerous. That is completely dangerous. And also subclinically, you’re not able to feel your deficiency in terms of vitamin D, your deficiency in terms of selenium, your deficiency in terms of vitamin A, E, I mean, all of these markers, you’re not, you can’t feel it. [00:24:21][49.2]
[00:24:22] You know, we need to start presenting to the people out there the information that’s out there, because what we want to let people know is that we’re going deep. We’re going down to this gene susceptibilities, that gene understanding as it is today. [00:24:34][12.5]
[00:24:35] What we have learned is so powerful that it allows parents to understand a whole lot more of the issues pertaining to an athlete. Not only that, but the parents want to know what are my susceptibility? Do I have a risk of bone arthritis? Do we have issues of oxidative stress? Why do I always inflame all the time? Right. Well, believe it or not, if you’ve got the genes for let’s say you’ve got the gene that makes you eat a lot, well, it’s likely that you’re going to gain weight. You can raise 10000 people’s hands who have that same gene marker and you’re going to notice that they’re BIA’s and BMIs are way out of there because it’s the susceptibility to that. Now, can they change it? Absolutely. That’s what we’re talking about. We’re talking about understanding the ability to adapt and to change our lifestyle for the predispositions that we may have. [00:25:26][50.9]
[00:25:26] Yeah, and this is wonderful. And I see this quite frequently in terms of the conversation about losing weight, you know, and they go, oh, I did this program and it works great. And then you have 20 other people doing the same program and it’s shot. It doesn’t even work. And it’s almost like hit or miss. So people are becoming disillusioned. They’re putting their bodies through this incredible roller coaster ride, which is like the worst thing you could do. You know, they’re doing these extreme things and but they can not sustain it because why? At the end of the day, it’s not who you are. [00:26:02][35.8]
[00:26:02] It wasn’t for, it’s not who you are. You may need a different type of diet. Yes. [00:26:06][3.6]
[00:26:07] And so we. And again, our conversation today is very general. And we’re kind of starting this platform together because we have to educate our community and we have to share the latest in technology and science that addresses the needs. [00:26:26][19.1]
[00:26:28] Personalized health, personalized fitness. We understand that. We don’t have to guess if a diet is better for us, such as a low calorie, a high-fat diet or a Mediterranean style food or a high protein diet. We won’t be able to see that from the information that we’re continuously gathering, these scientists are putting information together and it’s compiled and it’s here and it’s a swab away or blood work away. It’s crazy. You know what? And this information, of course, you need to. And let me be mindful. Before this started, my little disclaimer comes in. This is not for treatment. Do not take anything. We’re taking this for treatment or for diagnosis. You got to talk to your doctors and your doctors have to tell you exactly what’s up there and what’s appropriate for every individual. We integrate. [00:27:17][48.9]
[00:27:18] The point is this. We integrate with all of the health care professionals, all the physicians, we are here to support and champion the functional wellness. Okay. And as you mentioned, we’re not here to treat these diseases. We’re not, we’re here to optimize again when athletes come in and they want to be better. They want to get healthier and help the recovery rate. [00:27:46][27.2]
[00:27:46] You know, the bottom line is the tester there. We can actually see Billy has not been eating well, OK? Billy has not been eating well. I can tell you well, he eats everything no, but he hasn’t had this level of proteins. Look at his protein depletion. So we’re going the present to you some of these studies out here, because it’s information, though, it’s a little complex, but we want to make it really, really simple. And one of the things that we were talking about here is the micronutrient test that we were actually providing here. Now I’m going to present it to you so you can see it a little bit here. And what we are using is some in our office when a person comes in and says, I want to learn about my body. We present this micronutrient assessment where we can actually figure out what’s going on. Now, this was one that was, let’s say, just it was in a sample for me, but it kind of tells you where the individual is. We want to be able to level the antioxidant level. [00:28:33][47.0]
[00:28:34] Now, everyone knows that if that. Well, not everyone. But now we understand that if our genes are optimal and our food is optimal, but we live in an oxidative stress state. Exactly. Our genes will not function. So it’s important to understand what the, it’s rust. [00:28:50][16.3]
[00:28:51] It’s I mean when you’re looking at this and I see two markers, I see the one for oxidative and then the other one is the immune system. Yes. Right. Yeah. So again, they correlate together. But they are different. So the oxidative I talk about it about rusting. Like your system is rusting out. Yes. Yeah. That’s oxidation. You see apples turning brown. You see metals rusting. So inside you want to absolutely be at your best, which is in the green. And that’s 75 to 100 percent exact functional rate. Exactly. That means you can handle the craziness of the world. Mario, you know? Stress. Yes. [00:29:31][40.8]
[00:29:32] So we can yes, we can look at the stress of the human body. Mario, we can see, is actually what’s going on. So as I continue with this kind of presentation here, we can kind of see what this individual is and what is his actual immune function age. So people want to know this stuff. I mean, I want to know where I lie in terms of the dynamics of the body. Right. So when I look at that, I can actually see exactly where I lie. And my age is 52. OK, in this particular situation. OK. Now, as we look down, we want to know at. Hold on. Hold on. Let’s get real. [00:30:03][31.6]
[00:30:04] So you mean to tell me that through this incredible system that we can actually get younger? Is that what you’re telling me? [00:30:14][9.5]
[00:30:14] Well, it tells you if you’re aging quicker. How’s that sound, Mario? So if you can slow down, if you’re in that top 100, the green, you’re going to be looking like a 47-year-old man when you’re 55. Right. So, from the structure, from the immune function, from the oxidative stresses in the body, what’s gonna happen is, is that we’re going to be able to see exactly where we are in terms of our body. [00:30:37][23.4]
[00:30:37] So that is correct. Yes. So we could be, our birth certificate could say 65, but our metabolic functional markers can say you’re 50. [00:30:50][12.4]
[00:30:51] Yes. Let me make it real simple. Yeah. People sometimes understand that oxidative stress is. It is. We hear about antioxidants. Yes. And reactive oxygen species. Let me make it simple. We’re a cell, you and I. We’re having a family meal right, we’re enjoying ourselves. We are normal cells. We’re happen. We’re functioning where everything is properly. All of a sudden, there’s a wild-looking lady got blades and knives and she’s greasy and she’s slimy. And she comes on. She hits the table, boom. And she kind of walks away. You know, it’s gonna unsettle us. Right? It’s going to be… Let’s call her an oxidant. OK. She’s an oxidant. She’s called a reactive oxygen species. Now, if we got two of those walking around the restaurant, we kind of keep an eye on her. Right. All of a sudden, a football player comes and takes her out. Boom. Knocks her out. Right in that situation, this greasy, slimy weapon looking lady. Right. That’s kind of scary. That was an antioxidant. That was a vitamin C. It just wiped her out, right? There’s a balance between oxidants and antioxidants in the body. They have different purposes, right? We have to have antioxidants and we have to have oxidants in order for us to body to function. [00:31:58][67.2]
[00:31:59] But if all of a sudden you got eight hundred of those ladies, walking around like zombies, I can just see that. Zombies man. [00:32:08][8.9]
[00:32:08] You know what you’re going to want. We’re football players. We’re the antioxidants. Right. Take them out. Take them out. Football players come in. But there are just too many of them, right. Anything that you and I do in a conversation, we could be healthy cells. And we’re having this conversation at the dinner table. Right. We’re disrupted totally. We cannot function in an oxidative stress environment. No. [00:32:31][22.9]
[00:32:31] So basically, we may have all the supplements and we may have all the nutrients and we may have the proper genetics. But if we’re in an oxidative state. Right. An elevated level, we are not going to be aged. It is not going to be a comfortable night. And we will not recover. We will be at a higher risk factor for injuries. Exactly. And the other thing is, we also have the risk factor where we will age faster than we should. [00:33:04][32.5]
[00:33:04] That night would be really rough. If there’s like one hundred of those people. [00:33:07][2.8]
[00:33:07] The balance in life, in the antioxidants, we have A, E, C, and all the foods that are antioxidants. We need to know the state. That is what this test does. It actually shows you the level of antioxidants. Hey. [00:33:19][11.8]
[00:33:20] Hey, let me ask you this, Alex. Everyone loves to work out. When you work out. Does that increase or decrease your oxidative stress? [00:33:28][8.8]
[00:33:29] Please tell me. It increases your oxidative stress. You’re right. No, no, no. Stop it. No, it doesn’t. No, because you’re breaking the body down. However, the body responds. And if you are, if we are healthy, Mario, if we are healthy. Right. Our body first has to break down and it has to repair. Okay. In that process, we want to have antioxidants because it helps us go through the process. Part of healing and part of inflammation is oxidative balance. So in essence, when you’re working out too hard or you’re running hard, you can overburn the bar, there you go. And those are the things that you and I have to kind of look at. And when people, and this is the balance. Now, this is a balance that is like the paradox. [00:34:10][41.5]
[00:34:11] Right. You know what? If you overwork, you’re gonna look awesome. But you know what? You’re actually breaking down. And if you don’t work out, there goes your cardio. There goes. I mean, other risk factors. Yeah. Right. So this is where it is so critical that we need to balance and know specifically what each person needs to be at their best. And they. And we can’t guess. No. You can’t take the same supplements as, I can’t take the same supplements as you. We can. [00:34:41][30.1]
[00:34:42] We can. But it may not be. It may be a lot of waste of money. We may just be missing the whole process. Exact. So in this whole dynamics, you’re just losing this test, Mario. Just using it at this particular assessment. We want to be able to see also what our cofactors on. We talked about proteins, we talked about genetics. We talked about things that make these enzymes work, our body functions, and pure enzymes. [00:35:02][20.9]
[00:35:03] In this particular one, you’re actually seeing what the cofactors are and what the metabolites are. Well, you see amino acids. There are levels where they are in your body. If you’re an extreme athlete, you want to know that those things are. [00:35:14][11.0]
[00:35:14] Oh, yeah. I mean, look at that. Those aminos. Those are critical. I mean, you know, I’m sorry, Mario, you think. Yeah. I mean, you know, it’s like every athlete I know, they’re like, hey, I got to take my aminos. My question is, are you taking the right ones at the right level and or do you even know? And they’re guessing, you know, 90 percent of the people are guessing. You’re looking at antioxidants. Look at that. That’s the beast right there, glutathione. That’s like the granddaddy of antioxidants right there. Exactly. And you want to know is that football players, that linebacker gonna, like, crush those zombies, you know? And again, vitamin E, I mean, CoQ10. Everyone talks about CoQ10. What? Heart health. Right. Coenzyme Q10. Yes. Right. Exactly. Yeah. [00:36:02][47.6]
[00:36:02] A lot of people taking cardiac medication specifically to lower the cholesterol. [00:36:07][4.7]
[00:36:08] Well, they’ve pulled the beta-blockers. What does it do to CoQ10?. Don’t get me started. I want to get started, man. As you know what? [00:36:15][7.6]
[00:36:16] Documentation came out early on when they did a lot of these medications. They knew they had to end and put Coenzyme Q in it. They did. They knew. And they patented it because they knew that they had it. Because if you don’t give coenzyme Q Right. What happens is you have them having inflammatory states. People have issues that are just, they’re starting to understand now. That’s why you see all the commercials with the coenzyme. But the point is here is this. We need to know where our present state is at. Right. So when we understand those things, we can take a look at tests as these and we can actually look at the dynamics of it, wouldn’t you like to know which of these antioxidants, it’s so clear? [00:36:52][35.5]
[00:36:52] I love that. Exactly. Look at that. You know what? It’s red. Green, black. I mean, that’s it. I mean, you can see it right away. This is your board. This is your command center. You know, I love the command center. I say everything’s there. [00:37:09][16.7]
[00:37:10] I know. Mario, you know, with those athletes, they want to be at the top level. Yes. It looks like this person’s kind of floating somewhere. [00:37:15][5.7]
[00:37:16] But they want to top in at one 100 percent. Alex, they’re on a bench, they’re on a bench, baby. Yeah. [00:37:23][6.6]
[00:37:24] And when they’re under a lot of stress, who knows what they are. Now, these tests are really simple to do. They’re not complex to go in. Take a lab test, sometimes… [00:37:30][6.3]
[00:37:30] These are urine tests. We can do those in our offices in a matter of minutes. [00:37:35][5.0]
[00:37:36] Exactly. In a matter of minutes. Crazy. That’s crazy. This is why it’s so simple. [00:37:41][4.9]
[00:37:42] It’s like my question is what color is the red bus? [00:37:45][3.5]
[00:37:47] I don’t know. No, it’s a trick question. [00:37:49][2.2]
[00:37:50] Well, going back into what our topic was today was personalized medicine and personalized wellness. Personalized fitness. Doctors around the country are starting to understand that they can not just say, OK, you’re pregnant. Here’s a folic acid bill. OK, here are some nutrients, though every doctor has to be taking care of their own clients. They’re the ones that are doing this. But people have the ability to understand, where are the other holes? [00:38:15][24.8]
[00:38:15] Wouldn’t you want to make sure you have the right selenium before you have symptoms? That’s the thing before. And this is why we are not treating issues, diagnosed issues. We’re not. We’re saying, what are you doing to optimize and decrease your risk factors? [00:38:35][19.3]
[00:38:36] There’s the issue of longevity, too. Because, I mean, the issue of longevity is if you’re providing your body with the right such substrates, the right cofactors, the right nutrition, your body has a chance to make it to a hundred years plus. Plus. Exactly right. And actually function. And if you have a depleted life, well, you’re burning the engine. So the body starts having issues, you know, so as we look at those kind of things. [00:38:59][23.3]
[00:38:59] If you go back, can you go back to our two markers, the immune. [00:39:04][4.4]
[00:39:06] Yeah, antioxidants. Look at that. ImmunoDex. [00:39:10][3.8]
[00:39:11] ImmunoDex. There’s a reason why they stop here at 100, because that’s the whole idea. The whole idea is to get you to live 100, centennial. Right. So we if we can do this, if you’re a person who is, let’s say, 38 years old and you’re in the midst of your life and let’s say you’re a business person and you’re a junkie for business, you’re a junkie for entrepreneurship. Right. You want to throttle, you against the world. You do not want a kind of Nicholas the worm weakness, so to speak, taking you out of your football run in life. Right. Because otherwise, you can trip up on things. And what we want to be able to do is provide people through nutritionists, through registered dietitians to doctors through the information out there to better supplement your lives. And it’s not just about little Bobby. It’s about me. It’s about you. It’s about our patients. It’s about every single one of them who wants to live a better quality of life. Because if there’s a depletion in certain things, it’s not now. But in the future, you may have a susceptibility that will bring out diseases. And that’s where those susceptibilities. We can take it to the next level because we can actually see what’s actually going on in terms of this. I’m going to go ahead and bring this back up here so you can to see what we’re looking at. You can actually see the B complexes. Now, we have a lot of B complexes. [00:40:33][81.2]
[00:40:34] And we basically oh, we got people texting all over the place here. [00:40:38][4.1]
[00:40:38] And I’m getting zapped with messages. Your oxidative stress is going up, Alex. [00:40:44][6.0]
[00:40:45] Well, it’s crazy that we’ve been here an hour, so we want to be able to bring information out for you guys as time goes on. I want to go through this and talk about the individual antioxidants. Now, individuals, your football players, man, she was taking those people out right, really making your whole life a lot better. Right. Mario, this is the kind of stuff that we look at. You know, your glutathione and your coenzyme. [00:41:06][21.0]
[00:41:06] Selenium, your vitamin E, carbohydrate metabolism. Look at that. I mean, glucose and insulin interaction that is called energy, baby. [00:41:16][9.6]
[00:41:17] And I know that’s called turbo. Last time I checked, you know. Listen, we got a lot of good doctors. We do. We got like Dr. Castro out there. We got all great doctors out there that really understand. We’re running over.� [00:41:29][12.6]
[00:41:30] I mean, this is like we’re going to get in trouble. Facebook is going to knock us out. [00:41:37][7.6]
[00:41:38] Facebook is going to put a time limit on this. I think it’s actually about an hour. But the bottom line is, we really start to work on, this can’t cover everything this time. Hey, Mario, when I went to school, we were terrorized by this machine called Krebs Cycle. For those of you, how many ATPs, Alex, tell me how many. Thirty-two is it glycolysis or anaerobic. Right. [00:42:06][27.5]
[00:42:06] So when we start looking at that, we start seeing how those coenzymes and those vitamins play a role in our energy metabolism. Right. So in this individual, there were certain depletions. You can see where the yellow comes in. It affects them, the whole metabolic process, the energy production. So the person is always tired. Well, we kind of understand the dynamics of what’s going on. So this is critical information, as you and I kind of look at this. Right. We can say, what is it that we can offer? We can offer information to better, dynamically change the way the body works. Right. So this is a crazy right. So in terms of it, we can go on and on, guys. So what we’re going to be doing is we’re probably going to be coming back because this is just fun. You think so? Yeah, I think we’re going to come back. We’ve got to change the way that all El Paso is and not only for our community but for the people that that those moms, those moms that want to know what is the best for their family members. What can we offer? The technology is not, we’re not going to allow ourselves in El Paso to be ever called the fattest, sweatiest town in the United States. We do have unbelievable talent out here that really can teach us about what’s going on. So I know that you’ve seen that, correct? Yeah, absolutely. [00:43:18][72.2]
[00:43:19] And what I can say is this, Alex. It’s about peak performance and peak ability and also getting the right specific. Customized. Genomic nutrition pattern free for each individual. And that is the game-changer. That’s the game-changer all the way from longevity, all the way to performance and just being happy and living the life that you were meant to live. [00:43:50][31.0]
[00:43:51] Mario, I can just say that when we look at this stuff, we get really excited about, as you can tell. But it affects all our patients. People come in all depleted, tired, in pain, inflamed, and sometimes we just, you know, we need to go find out what it is. And we in our scope, we are mandated to be responsible and to figure out where this lies in our patient’s problems, because what we’re doing, if we help their structure, the musculoskeletal neurological system, their mind system through a proper diet and through understanding, through exercise, we can change people’s lives. And they want to be able to fulfill their lives and enjoy their lives the way it should be. So there’s a lot to be said. So we’re gonna come back in probably sometime next week or this week, and we’re gonna continue this topic on personalized medicine and personalized wellness and personalized fitness because working with many doctors through integrative wellness and integrative medicine allows us to be a part of a team. Well, we have G.I. doctors, you know, cardiologists. There’s a reason we work as teams together because we all bring a different level of science. There’s you know, no team is complete without a nephrologist. And that dude is gonna figure out exactly the implications of all the things we do. So that cat is very important in the dynamics of integrative wellness. So in order for us to be able to be the best kind of providers, we have to expose and tell people about what’s out there, because a lot of people don’t know. And what we need to do is we need to bring it to them and let the cards lie and teach them that they have to tell their doctors, hey, doc, I need you to talk to me about my health and sit down, explain to me my labs. And if they don’t, well, you know what? Say you need to do that. And if you don’t, well, time to find a new doctor. OK. It’s that simple because today’s information technology is such that our doctors can not neglect nutrition. They can not neglect wellness. They can not neglect the integration of all the sciences putting together to make people healthy. This is one of the most important things that we got to do. It’s a mandate. It’s our responsibility. And we’re going to do it. And we’re gonna knock it off the ballpark. So, Mario, it’s been a blessing today and we’ll continue to do this in the next couple of days and we’ll keep on hammering and given people the insights as to what they can do in terms of their science. This is a health voice 360 channel. So we’re going to talk about a lot of different things and bring a lot of different talents. Thanks, guys. And you got anything else, Mario? [00:46:10][138.8]
[00:46:11] I’m all in. All right, brother. Talk to you soon. Love you, man. Bye. [00:46:11][0.0]
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